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At last an opportunity to get this question answered:

Surely "Trust but Verify" is a joke? Or at least a paradox.

If you trust someone then you don't need to verify, and if you verify then you aren't trusting someone.

And yet many people, such as this post and Ronald Reagan use it as if it just a simple slogan without a dark double-meaning.

Is it just me? I don't see how someone who "trusts but verifies" would act any different from someone who "distrusts and therefore verifies" apart from (falsely) telling the person being checked up on that they are "trusted".

Any Russians want to comment?



You could say it's like "Trust Allah, but tie your camel". http://www.google.com/search?q=trust+allah+but+tie+your+came...

But really it means when you delegate, do it thoroughly. Don't just say it once and assume it's done. Confirm that it's done. Set up a system to make sure that it's done.


There is a similar Russian expression too, less poetic however.

I think "trust but verify" places more emphasis on the "trust" part whereas the other one emphasizes the personal responsibility. Both remind us to seek the balance between personal involvement and personal detachment in a particular project.


You can be verifying that they did what you had in your head that they would do. It may be that you didn't communicate the task well enough so you're really verifying your message.


There is no joke and no paradox.

"Trust, but verify" captures the attitude that you're verifying not because of any suspicion of wrongdoing, but because there is a remote possibility of major problems. So the person who is being checked up on is not under suspicion, and shouldn't be concerned about the verification process. It is just a standard procedure because you'd have to be crazy not to check.


Verification doesn't have to be about trust. It's a feedback loop.

When delegating work, I always trust the people I delegate to. However, I verify what's done in order to make sure we're on the same page in terms of how things got done, and even to make sure that I communicated what I needed done effectively.

You can distrust and verify as well, but you're verifying for different reasons.


I have always hated this phrase. It isn't "wisdom," it's just dumb saying that makes no sense if you think about it for more than two seconds. Either you trust someone, or you do not. People who go around spouting this line as an example of what a sage leader Reagan was annoy me to no end.


It seems like, in the context of this quote, "trust" is used to mean "delegate thoroughly and without reservation".


I think it can make sense, although I'm not Russian.

It's not that the OP doesn't trust his subordinate. It's that he doesn't trust the communication between them. It could be that the project wasn't described clearly, or that its high priority wasn't understood.


In Russian, "trust but verify" is not a paradox but a wise saying. I think all cultures have something similar, maybe not so succinctly put.

I think it simply refers to avoiding micromanagement but still checking the validity of results.


It may sound illogical but experience proves it to be true


Trust now, verify later (that they are still worthy of your trust).




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