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It's interesting to note that these come from various ex but also current employees. Talks a lot about the culture over there.

> "The random mass firings of 2013 tanked moral, and the stream of talent leaving the company during 2014 didn't help."

I think this one is talking about the departure of Michael Abrash (and several others) to Occulus.



And pretty much all of the kinds of obvious things that you'd expect to see in a "self-organizing" environment are called out.

- de-facto hierarchy takes its place (at valve it seems that there are several overlapping hierarchies, all of which are toxic)

- highly centralized power at the top results in the de-facto highest people jockying for favor and acting as gatekeepers

- innovation stops

- complex projects take forever

- risk taking gets turned into position jostling

- unclear structure leads to unclear reviews

- nobody to resolve disputes

- secrets and rumors dominate information flows

- these problems remain unacknowledged

Look at reviews for other large flat organizations and you'll see the same issues echoed over and over again. Anybody who's worked for a reasonably sized "flat" org will recognize all of these problems as persistent and near universal.

Zappos will be no different. It's just a terrible way to organize labor.




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