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If you can find an underserved market that would benefit from such a service then yes, you quite clearly could make money doing that. I'm not sure what you're getting at.


Well, I could ask why Pigeon needed to develop their own system instead of piggybacking on GV. I could also ask why nobody else tried offering GV setup as a service, if the alleged difficulty of setting it up was great enough to create a market for Pigeon.


>why Pigeon needed to develop their own system instead of piggybacking on GV

Who said they aren't piggybacking on GV (or somebody else)? They were vague about the tech behind their VOIP. Which is what I would expect from somebody doing exactly what you suggested. They wouldn't be honest about that or they'd be telling their customers they could just use GV instead...

What they've done is found a market and figured out how to market to them. That's huge. If you can solve those problems, you could do it too. Not every business has to make a huge technological leap to be successful.


Why nobody else tried offering an existing solution to a new market? Is that a serious question? That exact thing happens all the time and has made many companies very successful. Hell, the site you're on right now isn't exactly revolutionary (user-content link aggregator with commenting system), but it found a target market in technically minded people and it has brought value to those people. Would you ask why people use Hacker News instead of Reddit or Digg?

And I don't know if they did develop their own system or are wrapping an existing VOIP solution, I didn't see it mentioned specifically.


It sounded like they were using their own system.

If a new site opened up that offered exactly what Reddit does, but wrote their own code from scratch, (and charged), I would also ask what they're bringing to the table over Reddit, what features they have that reddit doesn't, and would criticise them for not reusing old code that did what they wanted if they couldn't show me any better features.


I guess I'd ask again, do you critique Hacker News for this?

It is definitely not a new idea to reuse existing ideas, even if you don't reuse existing code, to provide previously unserved/underserved markets with already existing services/products, nor is it a new idea to charge for it. I honestly don't know what you're getting at. Do you think they should provide this service for free because others do? Should customers just be smarter and know that Google Voice exists? What exactly do you find is wrong about this situation?


Main reason is that GV is not secure according to the FCC ruling on prison pay phones. To be used with inmate calls a phone system has to have certain security items fulfilled and processed.

GV numbers are generally blocked by the pay phone providers and the FCC has allowed that.




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