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Avoiding harsh words could look like a logical fallacy but it is just being polite. Essentially, attacking an article he wrote about software development years ago is a lot like my attacking an article on software development written by a lgbt person because of their sexual orientation. People have avoided saying that to be polite. That is why I likened it to declaring war on the individual for their thoughts for one thing, expanding it to all things.

A simple statement on distaste for the individual is perfectly appropriate, and personal, and many people would agree with you on that one.

I am pretty sure if I remember right his words against gay people was at a small conference and then was blown up by the lgbt community. No one would have otherwise known... If I were on LGBT mailing lists I would probably get emails helping to fight "orson scott card" and asking me to donate.

I see it how it is, Orson Scott Card holds no influence to change laws, the gay movement has won on marriage. It is just a matter of time until it is upon us all. Far right Republicans use it as a wedge issue but it is becoming a weak issue. Even surveys of church going people show that the idea has a majority of popularity in the positive. The Pope doesn't even want to focus on it. No one wants to touch the issue with a 10 foot pole, it's a loser, the issue is lost. The last few holdouts will get ran over.



"Avoiding harsh words could look like a logical fallacy but it is just being polite."

The logical fallacy is accusing people who consider intolerance unacceptable of themselves being intolerant. That is an example of tu quoque.

"A simple statement on distaste for the individual is perfectly appropriate, and personal, and many people would agree with you on that one."

You seem to be repeatedly missing the point that many people - including Card - are going far beyond a "simple statement on distaste."

"I am pretty sure if I remember right his words against gay people was at a small conference and then was blown up by the lgbt community."

In fact you do not remember right. He has written numerous articles advocating for the treatment of homosexuals as second class citizens and even armed insurrection against the government should they treat homosexuals as equal under the law. You could easily find these articles if you spent two minutes on Google. They make a lovely companion to his article about how Obama is going to recruit an army of "urban thugs" to do is his bidding.

"I see it how it is, Orson Scott Card holds no influence to change laws, the gay movement has won on marriage."

Given the widespread hatred directed at them - which goes beyond mere personal distaste - and the numerous discriminatory laws that still remain on the books around the country, and the fact that there are still 33 states that specifically outlaw gay marriage, I wouldn't say that the issue is "won" by a long shot. Don't confuse some high profile victories with total victory.




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