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>What is "human nature?" Anyone making the claim that "X" is part of human nature, but "Y" is not part of human nature, needs to be very careful. Because the fact that humans do both X and Y is already evidence that both are a part of human nature.

Or that other people had fucked up society so much (for their own benefit, unrelated to X and Y), so that people are forced to do Y.

Like, for example, being a child prostitute.

Nothing in human nature (outliers excluded) makes a child want to prostitute itself. But they do it, all over the world, either because they are threatened with violence, or because they have to eat and it's something they can do to achieve that.

I gave an extreme example -- normal prostitution is equally off. As are tons of other things (working 16 hour shifts at some shitty factory in China for example, or eating fast food crap day in and day out), but those are not as controversial and people accept them more.



All you have shown is that it is within human nature for humans to force other humans to do terrible things (i.e. to fuck up society)


No, you missed the other part I have shown, which cames naturally from the above: that there are things that are forced upon some humans, and thus not a part of their nature or natural tendencies.


Uh... no. All you have shown is that it is within human nature to do something you don't want to do because you are being forced to (because you fear being killed or being beaten, or because you are desperately trying to survive).




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