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		lupire 26 days ago \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: Avoiding Trigonometry (2013) They aren't completely different, because trying to achieve wine generally harms the other.

srean 26 days ago [–]

True, I guess you understood what I meant, that they are different things.

Indeed, as you allude, you cannot have both in an expressive enough system.

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