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> Yes it's a fact and not merely a commonly held view that Trump's campaign had Russian actors, but reasonable people still consider him President

Yes, because that in no way invalidates the election results.

I really don't see how this is in any way comparable or relevant.

> and not a puppet placed by Putin.

Trump being a puppet placed by Putin would not invalidate his presidency.



So factually proven Russian interference in the United States elections does not invalidate election. Maduro interference, the veracity of which can be reasonably doubted in your very own words, does invalidate the election.

Comically ridiculous reasonable people.

The puppet tows the line of the "elected" dictator, who is famous for killing his opponents. But comically ridiculous reasonable people still consider them both presidents of their respective nations.


You can't be serious, but the nature of the interference differs:

Russians allegedly posted things on twitter that may or may not have helped Trump.

Maduro allegedly just totally lied about the vote counts, did not actually win the election.

The first is at best "meh", the second is circumventing the electoral process completely.

> So factually proven Russian interference in the United States elections does not invalidate election

If you consider Russian interference in the US elections to be factually proven, then I suppose we can safely make that same assumption about the Venezuelan electoral fraud claims. I'd say the public evidence regarding those is even better than the evidence available related to the Russian electoral interference claims.


You can't be serious, people went to jail for it. I am out...

George Papadopoulos - his foreign policy adviser

Rick Gates - his deputy campaign manager

Paul Manafort - his campaign chairman




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