> another way to look at it is the self driving car - they got there eventually.
No they did not. Elon has been saying Tesla will get there “next year” since 2015. He is still saying that, and despite changing definitions, we still are not there.
Karpathy talked about Waymo, and he said they aren't there yet. They still have humans in the loop via telemetry and there are parts of cities they won't go to.
Karpathy is biased when it comes to self driving. Example: You can't both have humans teleoperating like he claimed, AND have cones disabling Waymos. Waymo's mistakes such as one where they were going around a parking lot honking at each other tells you they don't have humans in the loop except in the most extreme cases. He's likely correct that it's not self driving 100% of the time, but what if it's 99.999% and in the 0.001% the humans have to tell the Waymo how to get out of a very tricky situation?
i guess the comment you replied proves the actual point "we may never get there, but it will be enough for the market".
sigh, i guess it's time to laugh on that video compilation of elon saying "next week" for 10yrs straight and then cry seeing how much he made of doing that.
No they did not. Elon has been saying Tesla will get there “next year” since 2015. He is still saying that, and despite changing definitions, we still are not there.