Oh Jesus. Yes, every person that cares about children not getting life altering surgery is a pedofile.. makes sense. They ran out of normal obvious kids of the gender they like, and now they're worried they might accidentally fall for a freak of modern medicine. You caught me.
What they're doing to children is some of the worst things you could imagine doing to a child. The children don't know better, and the adults the allow it all seem to basically be borderline insane/gay themselves too.
I'm from the San Francisco Bay area. I really do have this neighbor. And do I have concern for them? No. I believe that child has already been harmed and is too far gone. I have concern for all the children that can be saved still, and I have concern for all the people that know doing that to children is terrible but can't understand why they're being called bigots.
A father of a trans kid responded to you in the other subthread. By your own reckoning, this person is a monster and the type of person kids need to be saved from.
But instead of arguing with him, getting angry with him, expressing sorrow for his kid, or even acknowledging him and agreeing to disagree about their parenting methods, you keep talking about your imaginary neighbor.
You are getting so wrapped up in your talking points that you're forgetting to tell a believable story or have believable reactions.
Once again, how hard is it to believe someone from SF has this neighbor. And why would me having this neighbor or not even matter to my point really? Why would I make this up? And EVEN IF I did, would that matter since we know there are several of these kids in most bay area towns??
And no, I didn't respond to that guy. Because you're right, I do think he's doing/did a terrible thing. So instead of harping on him for something it's too late to even change, I let it go. Just like I do/did for my neighbor. I've helped that guy with his car twice over the last two years (tire rope plug, battery, small fluid checks), and didn't mention that evil stupid shit he did/allowed his kid to do or go through.
I rather argue this shit out with people that can change, not with the few specific people so deep you'll never change their mind.
Funny thing only yesterday I saw a great thread on reddit where people shared stories of their older relatives becoming obsessed about trans people (not in a healthy way) alike to how some became obsessed with the qanon conspiracy before.
I actually have a neighbor who now has a trans girl at 13 years old, since about 10. I knew the child from infancy. So as conspiratorial as it could be, I am literally watching a neighbor destroy their child month by month. It's not a conspiracy.
I have a trans kid at 15. Living their best life. Knew the kid from day one (today’s their 15th birthday).
Guess what? It’s all their choice, suggestion, etc. While I’d prefer their original name (I mean, I chose that for a reason), everything else is obvious and right in retrospect.
Instead of just /watching/ a neighbor, you could /be/ a neighbor and get to know them. You might feel differently about your preconceptions when you actually know the human.
I do actually know them. I'm nice as can be and help the family with their cars. But what's being done to that kid is terrible and most likely permanent. I don't think a kid is old enough to know if this stuff should be done to them.
See, this is what I was going at above. You are not really concerned about wellbeing of the children. You are just obsessed about this single (manufactured) issue.
I use the insane, gross, evil thing they approve of to remind them that while they throw around the bigot word at normal people, they are the true gross evil in the world, but regardless of that, just their non approval of healthy sane normal people makes them the bigots.
Oh for sure, I'm the mad Men because I think children shouldn't be given surgery and life-altering hormones based on thoughts they have as children. Your position is so terrible that there's nothing you can say that will make it ever make any kind of sense.
I don't think you'll get anywhere arguing with these people, especially the ones who've bought into this cult to the extent that they've transed their own children.
They have to convince themselves they've done the right thing, because the alternative is horrifying.
No, my thing is free internet. Not bigot-loving or hardcore leftist sites. On Reddit, if you say anything that is not leftist, you will get banned or deleted these days. I am a liberal, not left or right wing.
