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I left the UK earlier this year and went to the USA for exactly this reason. Sick of giving half my paycheque to not receive anything in return except more boot on my neck. Mother freedom etc etc


Nothing in return?

If you had caught cancer, lost your job, had a baby then you would have got help.

You drove to work on roads didn't you? Or perhaps it was subsidised public transport. Your wealth, and the wealth of the company you worked for was protected from a mob with pitch forks. Were you protected from foreign armies invading?

What about education? Or education for your children?

I run a large payroll, I don't see anyone that pays half of their pay in tax?


> Nothing in return?

I'm not the one you responded to, but yes, nothing in return.

> caught cancer

The NHS currently has a waiting list of 6.3M patients waiting for treatment. The median waiting time for treatment is 14.2 weeks, or 3.2 months.

https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-support/nhs-delivery-and-w...

This is for TREATMENT, not diagnosis, which you have to add on top.

And anecdotically, I had to wait for a year to get an appointment to discuss a benign procedure that I got done in 2 days in another EU country.

> lost your job

Unemployment benefits are a literal spit in the face in the UK. It is BETTER in the US if you can believe it. Jobseeker Allowance is £90.50 per week, or £392 per month (and you get it only if you're literally broke, I think less than 2 grand in savings).

https://www.gov.uk/jobseekers-allowance

For comparison, the median rent is £1,276 in the UK (not just London).

> You drove to work on roads didn't you?

You have to pay £15 a day for the privilege of sitting in traffic in London: https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/congestion-charge

(I'm focusing on London for transport because this is where the extreme majority of high earners are located)

> Or perhaps it was subsidised public transport.

TFL is basically not subsidized. It got subsidized by the government only to recover for COVID, and it is still the least subsidized public transportation in the world by far: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F4...

Note that TFL is also the most expensive public transportation in the whole world, to the point where it is more than twice as expensive as the number 2 (Tokyo).

> Your wealth, and the wealth of the company you worked for was protected from a mob with pitch forks.

Clearly demonstrated otherwise by the riots a few months ago where many properties were burnt by mobs, and companies' buildings defaced by protestors.

> Were you protected from foreign armies invading?

I let you search for "uk military unprepared" on Google News, I'm not sure which of the thousands of news articles you'll prefer.

> What about education? Or education for your children?

University is extremely expensive. In fact, if we take into account the purchasing power, the UK has the highest tuitions fees in the world: https://www.statista.com/chart/11058/bachelor-tuition-fees-i...

Even without that, many students get their loans forgiven after 30 years because they don't earn enough to reimburse them.

Besides universities, public schools are bad and private schools are extortionately expensive.

> I run a large payroll, I don't see anyone that pays half of their pay in tax?

You're right on this, it's not possible to pay 50% __income tax__ on your pay in the UK. That said if you take into account student loans repayments and other similar things, you can very well receive less than 50% of your gross income as net income.


I left and came back because I was homesick. I deeply regret it. Thinking of moving away again but I miss my family enough as it is living in another part of the country. I was hoping for some positive change (even though unlikely), but that isn’t going to happen.




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