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Marty Makary is neither anti-vaccine nor a conspiracy theorist. He's a professor of medicine at Johns Hopkins, author of the paper that turned into the "checklist manifesto", as well as multiple NY Times best-selling books on medicine. Please stop.


Oz was a professor at the columbia university medical school until like 2015 and he was by all accounts an incredible cardiac surgeon before swerving into being a professional crackpot. He's still a crackpot though, and for quite a long time was both a crackpot and a professor at a prestigious medical school.


I'm not sure how "was a professor at Columbia" is supposed to be a rebuttal, and "crackpot" is just a slur. He's currently a professor at Johns Hopkins, and in fact, right now has a book at #10 on the New York Times best seller list [1]. He's a completely mainstream doctor who happens to (I assume) disagree with you about something.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/2024/10/06/hardco...


I was talking about Mehmet Öz. I was pointing out that affiliation with a mainstream medical institution appears to be compatible with crackpot beliefs. I don't know anything or have an opinion about Makary but Öz is a crackpot. Crackpot is a slur and I am using it intentionally.


None of those are exclusive of being anti-vaccine or a conspiracy theorist.

But agreed he doesn’t seem to be all that bad. Best of luck to him surrounded by that team of experts!


Except he plainly isn't anti-vaccine, nor a conspiracy theorist. It's a lazy slur, and it's discouraging to see people repeating it.

He was against a Covid vaccine mandate, which is not "anti-vaccine", except in the heads of people who have replaced logic and scientific knowledge with politics.


I don’t know enough about him to say, my only comment was that “he is a NYT best-seller, invented the checklist manifesto” etc aren’t rebuttals.

This comment you made is much more substantial.


He’s a contrarian, not a conspiracy theorist, but that led him astray when he became the goto guy for reporters looking for a real doctor (well, surgeon) to represent the anti-vaccine mandate side. That still puts him ahead of the solid anti-vax side but suggests that he’s likely to make the same choice again in the future – it’s addictive to think you’re on to something everyone else missed – and I would imagine it’s especially a risk if that means getting on the bad side of a famously vindictive boss.




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