When all is said and done I bet Gaza had very little effect on overall D turnout. If it did, those that either sat out or voted R specifically because of Gaza did so to spite their face. An R administration will turn their backs on a lot of geopolitical happenings and let those involved run wild, of which the Palestinians will have little to no voice at all.
Also people vastly underestimate the political calculus in full throated support of Palestinians and by association, Hamas. There is a whole other side of this conflict and that is with Jews who also care about the resolution, but also care about Israel and the fact they've had rockets constantly fired into their territory. They also vote overwhelmingly D. You alienate one group for another and you've made no ground in terms of voter share.
Wayne County was never going to be the lynch pin of the election and even so, exit polling is notoriously fickle. If we're taking exit polling at face value, across the country the economy was #1 followed by preserving democracy and immigration. Geopolitics is probably at the bottom of the top 10 nationally.
Dearborn alone voted 50% for Trump, 22% for Jill and 28% for Harris. Thats 50-100k votes right there. A clear message and an axe to the foot of Palestine.
No, but you have to consider that the voted-for-jill-stein signal is considerably dampened from the didn't-vote-for-harris-because-of-Palestine signal; most of those people just wouldn't vote at all
Sounds more than plausible, and indeed likely. It's also quite possible that Biden's gaffe in calling Trump supporters "garbage", on its own, dinged Harris's campaign more than all the fallout from the Israel-Gaza conflict. Just to give a sense of what really moves the needle in American politics.
For context: there are 4,453,908 Muslim Americans and 1,698,570 Arab Americans as of the 2010 census. The DSA, by far the largest leftist organization, has about 80,000 members. Even if all three of those groups don't overlap at all, it still doesn't explain much.
That said, sentiments have power -- the idea that Harris is "more of the same" likely affected a lot of people, even if they don't align exactly with the people behind that message. Sadly, they're about to find out how wrong they are.
> That said, sentiments have power -- the idea that Harris is "more of the same" likely affected a lot of people, even if they don't align exactly with the people behind that message. Sadly, they're about to find out how wrong they are.
> “What, if anything, would you have done something differently than President Biden during the past four years?” co-host of ABC’s “The View” Sunny Hostin asked Harris, looking to give her a set for her to spike over the net. “There is not a thing that comes to mind,” she said.
That was her golden moment to distance herself from Biden's admin and show some personal incentive and she deliberately chose not to.
The oft-repeated question "What could be worse than a genocide?" was ill-thought-out, first-order thinking, IMO. Regardless, we are going to find out the higher order results soon.
Yeah. They have no idea Trump is the biggest pro-Israel anti-Muslim fan out there. He'll literally give Israel anything they want, and those people will gasp and act surprised.
We run our nation on oil. Our nation is built on good a relationship with Israel. Nothing about that will change until our priorities as a country change, dem or repb.
The devil doesn't exist, and real life is complicated. Have fun telling the living Palestinians "whelp, a lot of you already died, so we're gonna let the rest of you die/be deported to a country you've never been to."
