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Could you give a couple examples of libs that are missing. Not disagreeing, just curious.


Dotnet and java usually have similar libraries for most things, but sometimes it comes down to how different they are or what they support.

Let's look at general distributed messaging abstractions.

The most modern-featureful one for dotnet I know of is MassTransit: https://masstransit.io/documentation/concepts. You can see it supports a handful of queues and some interesting patterns.

Compare this to the list of features in Apache Camel: https://camel.apache.org/components/4.4.x/eips/enterprise-in...

Additionally, the _support_ of the libraries for common open-source (and closed-source infra) is usually vastly different:

- https://pulsar.apache.org/client-feature-matrix/

- Small features being first party like https://github.com/awslabs/amazon-sqs-java-extended-client-l... vs https://github.com/raol/amazon-sqs-net-extended-client-lib

- Missing features or those that lag behind: https://github.com/confluentinc/confluent-kafka-dotnet/issue...

- Usually manually wired and configured vs the spring boot "starter" pattern of having libraries that automatically do some of the manual setup work for you: https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-boot/blob/main/spr...

I wish more client library sets had the feature-matrix that the pulsar one does, because in practice most end up being the same: Java supports everything because it's either built in the same codebase or is the most used client and gets the most support, while the dotnet client codebase has many feature-requests or performance improvement issues, often leading to a "third-party client" being created.


Isn't not having perfect support with Apache is, in a way, a criticism of any non-JVM language? Perhaps the problem is on the other end?

We need a couple more Apache Struts and Log4J incidents for the public to realize there may be better technologies and ecosystems. Spring is very slow anyways.

As for Pulsar, there is a nice and optimized client (written in F#!) https://github.com/fsprojects/pulsar-client-dotnet


Which .NET Foundation was supposed to solve, yet we observe more and more FOSS projects not happy with it, and moving away from it.

Avalonia being the most recent example.


How does that relate to Apache projects being somewhere between Java-centric and Java-exclusive depending on the feature? If anything, we need more decentralization, there are awesome products like NATS that offer rich and well-written client libraries in multitude of languages. More of that.


Oracle, IBM, Sun on its days, didn't set the tune of the music at Apache, as apparently Microsoft does at .NET Foundation, as per complaints of the projects that decided to withdraw from the Foundation.


Apache Beam, Kafka and Scylla at my previous job were both examples where I felt like the .NET offerings were either not official or severely lacking.


Mostly client SDKs for different RESTful HTTP APIs




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