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Your demands are completely unreasonable, a weapon platform can be extremely effective in its role and not win a war outright. Yeah drones aren't magically solving the problem of minefields, so what?


My point was exactly that: no weapon system is a silver bullet, including drones. And just because something is old doesn't make it less useful.

And I didn't make any demands, not sure how you woupd read that into my answers to a thread started with "dropping stuff from drones is an attack that cannot be countered". People didn't learn anything it seems, first tanks were obsolete, until Ukraine wanted every single one of them. Then modern AA made fighters and helicopters obsolete, only to be replaced by drones as the latest shit. Those arguments are just cheerleading whatever is en vogue and hyped.


I’m not seeing your quote.

Tanks being obsolete is… not clear. Tanks vs. western anti tank missiles and drones dropping grenades does feel like a terrible ROI but they are still useful. Russia doesn’t have these things at the same level of efficacy so tanks are perhaps more valuable for Ukraine to have.

Helicopters and fighters are in the same boat. They’re useful, but vulnerable and expensive. The thing about drones is they cost $200 to take out weapons that cost up to millions of dollars.


You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, tanks, fighters, and helicopters are not obsolete by any stretch of the imagination.


That's why I always said the opposite. Internet, media and pundit opinion on the other hand...


So what's your actual argument here? Drones bad because new? Drones bad because minefields? Drones bad because mean people on the internet like them?


The argument is drones being the latest hype tech people don't understand. I'm fed up with hype.


$3M tanks getting busted by $200 drones is a paradigm shift in war. It’s going to be very hard to surpass this




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