I have had the happiest moments of my life on MDMA. Everyone should have experienced it at least once. Let me put it another way: No matter how happy you have ever been, on MDMA you can be happier. Somewhere between 3 and 100 times as happy. You gain perspective.
Now, with experience, I would only ever use it with purpose. Dating someone seriously? Have a night on MDMA and you will experience love beyond comprehension.
I have done my fair share of drugs and as much fun as they were, the experience was nowhere near close to the peak moments of my life to date. YMMV
Proposing to my fiancee, attending my brother's wedding, holding my nephew for the first time, winning my first boxing match, winning life-altering over-leveraged bets on the stock market; these are all experiences that not even the greatest of great trips can hold a candle to, and none of them came with comedowns. I've come to realise that drugs are the fast-food of experiences. You get that great sugar salt and fat rush but it's not really healthy and doesn't taste as great food prepared with love sweat and thought (IMO).
PS if you really love drugs, for me the best of the best is your own adrenaline (again YMMV)
"I have done my fair share of drugs and as much fun as they were, the experience was nowhere near close to the peak moments of my life to date."
That's not what they are saying, though. They said that they've had the happiest moments in their life on it. It might not be the best moment of your life, but you'll be freaking happy about it. There is no real comparison between a chemically-induced happiness and the enriching happiness of big life moments, and the chemically induced happy is definitely its own happy. It makes those big life moments even happier in retrospect, more so in the moment with some lasting long-term effect.
I advise to be careful for everyone trying it out for the first time. Do it only with people you trust and feel safe around. Even then the trip is usually awesome, but after that you gain perspective as you said, and that perspective comes sometimes with the realization that the world around you isn't peaceful and awesome.
Regarding your last sentence, if you want to go one step up from that, 2C-B is like MDMA x200 for a "night of fun with someone you love". It's beyond anything I've ever experienced before by a long shot, highly recommend.
Damn that's crazy, I've taken it probably 20/30 times and never had an issue, and taken it with groups of 5 or so folks and never seen that issue, not doubting you at all, just never heard of that reaction. Powder or pill? Are you sure it was good?
I bought it as a powder. We snorted a couple mgs. I tested it with one of the reagents and it checked out. I think I'm sensitive to vasocontriction. I'm aways freezing on psychedelics, this one was particularly bad. Shallow breaths, cold, tight chest. If I wasn't on drugs I would have gone to the hospital. Sex was intense though, and light visuals towards the end with trippy thoughts that just shut off at pretty much 2 hours on the dot.
I am pretty bad with acquiring illicit compounds beyond what the local hardcore gay clubbing dealer sells. Which is usually limited to e, mephedrone, crystal meth and cocaine. The last three being addictive hardcore drugs I won‘t ever try a second time.
Does it make you yearn for that the rest of your life though? Nothing can ever be as impressive as the empathetic openness on a heavy roll with the right people around you
Yes, yes it does. The desire is always there, garnished with the knowledge that every single hit melts your brain and permanently erodes your serotonin receptors a little bit.
> Although initially it proved difficult to find any cognitive sequelae that correlated with these changes,11 recent animal studies have shown subtle, but lasting, deficits in cognitive behaviorsthat do correlate with the levels of damage to 5-HT systems in the hippocampus.
> In this study, we found an MDMA-related decline in memory performance on a visual paired association test in the first follow-up period in heavy MDMA users,
Living the healthiest lifestyle possible would definitely have a great impact, but that has an impact on anyone who doesn't already live it: Food, nutrition, working out, cardio, meditation, sleep, avoiding negative emotions.
I agree and totally have done MDMA while dating someone.
But as good as the high was, the breakup was/is the worst of my life because of these moments we had together that were x100 more intense.
Don't recommend doing this if you think you'll later break up.
… that is only there because you are putting chemicals in your body. ‘Love beyond comprehension’ thanks to a drug doesn’t sound very fun to me, it sounds like something out of Brave New World.
Wrong. This is one of those things where you can't speak about (authoritatively, judgmentally, whatever) unless you have experience. It gives you a fundamentally new experience you have not had unless you have tried it, so you can't judge it as "synthetic" or "real" until you try it. With that bottom line out of the way, I want to help rehabilitate your view:
Maybe one way to view which correctly re-emphasises the "natural"/positive nature of the experience is to view entheogens/empathogens as a "performance enhancement" (or in gamer parlance, a cheat code) that gives you access to states of consciousness that you could indeed achieve sans external chemical assistance (ECA) with sufficient, work, practice, discipline, focus (interested? Energy work: breath, yoga, meditation, energy, diet). Then a question becomes: are you someone who likes to play with cheats on or not? But a more important question: you, who never even knew you could feel this incredible way, combined with the aid of this external chemical assistance which permitted you to discover that, now, having a taste for how expansive/loving/[appropriate-adjective] your life/experience can be, commit yourself to play this game of life without cheat codes and develop your capacity more in order to create, sans ECA, these experiences.
In BNW aren't things "force administered" to create a desirably compliant/utilitarian population? Indeed, nightmarish. But if you take it of your own choice, it's different.
These chemicals are probably powerful tools. Of course, people can choose to abuse those things and harm themselves and others, or just be generally grumpy about everything no matter what anyone says (which itself is a matter of perspective, something with which ECE can aid). So people can also choose to make the best use for themselves of those tools.
It doesn't mean you have to try, or even be open to. But before you talk on something you don't know and attempt to pass premature judgement incorrectly upon that, be open to realizing that there's a "step change"/watershed between what you know right now, and what you know once you had a good experience on them. In a similar way that you can't really know what it's like to have kids until you have them. It opens up your world. And what you do with that, just like kids--whether you fuck it up or not, or use it for good or not--is up to you.
I always offered my parents who won‘t live another 10 years some of my drugs, but they refuse. "We don‘t like loss of control / altered mental states" they say. Meanwhile I just met a young man I am
into who is excited to try e for the first time soon when we will go out.
You can really split people in two here, those who actively avoid gaining experience with new states of mind and those that love collecting them.
it's not like BNW because you can't really take it all the time. Trick to peak benefit is to space it out. Ideally by several weeks, if not months between sessions.
Now, with experience, I would only ever use it with purpose. Dating someone seriously? Have a night on MDMA and you will experience love beyond comprehension.