> The poster above is a real live example of the "don't help poor kids to get enough food to eat, it will just ruin them"
HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!
What a sad and horrible mischaracterization of what I said and what I think IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY.
First of all, grow up and learn to have a conversation with someone in order to understand what they might be saying.
Here's a concept: Ask questions.
Second, I was VERY CLEAR in my comment in that the idea is:
HELP PEOPLE TO THE EXTENT NECESSARY TO HAVE THEM GET ON THEIR FEET (whatever that means in terms of scale and time).
And then:
WHEN IT MAKES SENSE...
THEY NEED TO SLOWLY GET BACK TO A REALITY WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THE KIND OF SELF-SUFFICIENCY AND SELF-RELIANCE THAT MAKES PEOPLE WHOLE, PROUD AND GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO GROW AND SUCCEED.
How fucking dare you!
That's what you get here on HN. Robots who can't have a conversation, mischaracterize, put things out of context and think nothing of insulting the shit out of people. Nobody ever bothers to have a conversation and try to understand.
Oh, yes, the comment also contained a question. Read the very last sentence.
Name ONE, JUST ONE, fucking society that has excelled, thrived and grown in parity to others in an environment of total dependency to government handouts. You cannot. That does not exist, in any society across cultures and history. That, in fact, anywhere you care to look, is a formula for nothing less than various forms of soft and hard enslavement.
Yes, of course, American Indians suffered greatly. Nobody is denying that. The conversation here --or the question I asked-- was if the current status quo is something that will ever allow that population to move out of their current station in life. As far as I know, the only bright light they have to look at, as far as I know, are casinos, which, in my opinion, is a horrific thing.
HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!
What a sad and horrible mischaracterization of what I said and what I think IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY.
First of all, grow up and learn to have a conversation with someone in order to understand what they might be saying.
Here's a concept: Ask questions.
Second, I was VERY CLEAR in my comment in that the idea is:
HELP PEOPLE TO THE EXTENT NECESSARY TO HAVE THEM GET ON THEIR FEET (whatever that means in terms of scale and time).
And then:
WHEN IT MAKES SENSE...
THEY NEED TO SLOWLY GET BACK TO A REALITY WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THE KIND OF SELF-SUFFICIENCY AND SELF-RELIANCE THAT MAKES PEOPLE WHOLE, PROUD AND GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO GROW AND SUCCEED.
How fucking dare you!
That's what you get here on HN. Robots who can't have a conversation, mischaracterize, put things out of context and think nothing of insulting the shit out of people. Nobody ever bothers to have a conversation and try to understand.
Oh, yes, the comment also contained a question. Read the very last sentence.
Name ONE, JUST ONE, fucking society that has excelled, thrived and grown in parity to others in an environment of total dependency to government handouts. You cannot. That does not exist, in any society across cultures and history. That, in fact, anywhere you care to look, is a formula for nothing less than various forms of soft and hard enslavement.
Yes, of course, American Indians suffered greatly. Nobody is denying that. The conversation here --or the question I asked-- was if the current status quo is something that will ever allow that population to move out of their current station in life. As far as I know, the only bright light they have to look at, as far as I know, are casinos, which, in my opinion, is a horrific thing.