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Agreed, but again, the author isn't actually talking about frameworks except at the very end. Most of the article is about API wrappers like Stripe:

> My theory is, this causes a lack of effort expended on mundane libraries. It's not the most fun thing to build. I get it. Really, I do, but lack of these API-wrapping and protocol-handling libraries put Clojure at a significant disadvantage in the business of software.

The kinds of libraries the author misses in Clojure exist in abundance in Java, and the most likely explanation for their absence in Clojure is that most Clojure developers don't avoid interop as much as the author thinks they do.



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