Anyone who puts privacy in quotes has totally lost the plot.
Is it really so inconceivable to some two-bit developer that I absolutely do trust Apple more than I trust them?
Hell, I trust Apple more than I trust Facebook and Google. Apple ID is my go to SSO these days. Is Apple perfect? No. But this is a game of lesser of evils.
It’s really adorable to watch people embarrass themselves by not reading/comprehending the entire comment.
As I said: lesser of evils. I don’t care if Apple truly cares about privacy. I just care whether they will trample on it less than the others will, which I do believe, not because they care but because it might be profitable for them.
Imagine thinking that a whole 3 lines of comment are anything to ponder over very deeply.
We get it. Love Apple, trust Apple! There's not much else there.
Clearly the greater evil though is to enshrine one corporation to rule them all in the digital landscape. If we don't know that, then we haven't thought about the problem at all because we're trading short term security for long term insecurity. Read some Orwell or Huxley. Or just look at human history and how this plays out... what do we know about that? Anything?
Enjoy that! (Got 'em!)
Oh but we can go to Android! Gee, but we're talking about developers… You don't build a successful app business in the United States without going through Apple because they have over half the customers here.
To be clear: I'm fine with Apple signin existing. I am not fine with Apple being able to force every developer to dance to their tune just to be able to get at over half the smart phone users. There's a reason we have antitrust laws for this and not laws against two bit developers gaining your email and that's because one of them is the greater evil, but it's not the one you think it is...
You don't need to choose between Apple, FB, or Google. You can sign up with your email address, which means these companies get no analytics on your behavior
The reason "privacy" is in quotes is that some of us have started seeing through what Apple really means every time they use the word. As the EU's Executive Vice-President Margrethe Vestager has recently said regarding their Apple probe, privacy can't be an excuse to stifle competition.
You’re still missing it - we don’t trust YOU with our email address.
Before today we didn’t know who you are or what you stand for, and we didn’t trust you with our email address. After today, I’m sure I wouldn’t trust you with my private relay address, as you clearly care very little about your users.
On the contrary, I care very much about my users. Precisely because of this I am campaigning against Apple because they seek to extend their powers beyond reasonable measure. It is in everyone's interest, mine and the interest of my users, that Apple doesn't get to dictate us what we can and cannot do on their platform. But even worse is that Apple gets to dictate to us what we MUST do, which is the case in contention and a serious fault in my view
I get it, you trust Apple. But are you Apple? If not, then why do you defend what is clearly very unreasonable and anti-competitive behavior?
Please, just listen, because you’re clearly not getting it. Nobody knows you or trusts you. Many people, including myself, trust Apple far more than we trust you. This is because Apple has tens of billions of dollars in revenue from hardware sales. Selling some email addresses is going to bring a relatively paltry amount. I can’t say for certain they wouldn’t do it, but it would be really dumb. You on the other hand are much more likely to violate your users privacy because you don’t have another revenue stream at risk.
Is it really so inconceivable to some two-bit developer that I absolutely do trust Apple more than I trust them?
Hell, I trust Apple more than I trust Facebook and Google. Apple ID is my go to SSO these days. Is Apple perfect? No. But this is a game of lesser of evils.