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> I contrast it with excellent experiences at Sun, Motorola, Apple and others over the past 20+ years, where in some cases I had very high engineering ranks with fabulous results, in very well run and just healthy orgs.

I can understand how junior devs end up in these positions for a while and stay on the ride, but what is making someone with your level of experience you stick to Amazon? Is the compensation that good?



Compensation seems good, but I'm there because I got fooled and plan to quit very soon, when graciously (not screw team-mates) feasible, because it's just a waste of time that could be spent helping positive efforts in healthy orgs.


> ...I'm there because I got fooled and plan to quit very soon, when graciously (not screw team-mates) feasible, because it's just a waste of time that could be spent helping positive efforts in healthy orgs.

Quit now, and encourage your teammates to do likewise. I understand where you're coming from, but the attitude you have can be a source of exploitation (e.g. using loyalty to peers to keep you while the org screws all of you more).


There is usually on hire cash, that you must return if you don't work for a full year to prevent smart moves like this.


I have felt that way before, but it’s better just to quit ASAP. It’s the company that’s making your teammates suffer and their also better off just quitting.


I live by the motto "I work for money and appreciation, in that order. If you want loyalty, buy a dog!" It has served me well and removed a LOT of stress. I walked out of one crap-hole with a yelling management style on on week's notice. They told me it was unprofessional, and I laughed in the VP's face and told him he was lucky he got a week.


That is also my motto at work. You know what's unprofessional? Managers screaming at people. The fact that they thought dysfunction like that is OK but one week's notice is "unprofessional" tells you everything you need to know.


"Unique technical challenges"

Some of the problems you can work on in such an environment are interesting.

Combine that with the fact that you don't see this before joining and that some.manager s might be able to shield some of it you are where you are.

And then throwing hands in the air and leaving is a step, as most other companies have "smaller" problems to solve and "also bad management" ...




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