You lost me at the end. You lack political acumen if you think this is how politics works: " If there's a credible threat to build plenty of housing, they'll move on."
The Yimbies supported Mayor Breed. She hasn't changed the political problems in SF that you're (for the most part, accurately) diagnosing here.
The problem with most anti-activist government screeds like this is that they lack the same nuance and sophistication they would bring to, for example, commenting on a market analysis. I'm almost certain your position here is "end zoning." I'm fine with that. But it takes way more than shit posting, and the people who believe what you do are literally at the top of the city's government in San Francisco, and nothing has changed.
You need a better understanding of politics and a sharper theory of change. Just applying your own premise to this comment, investors are actually relying on people like YOU failing to learn more about politics and failing to understand how to better communicate about politics. YOU are part of the problem, not above it.
I don't live in San Francisco, and our local YIMBY group is getting things done, thank you very much. We helped nudge our local representatives towards passing HB2001 in Oregon, which will add to the supply of more affordable homes. We've helped get apartments built locally. We speak regularly with our city councilors.
It takes a lot more than being 'highly online' and YIMBY groups are doing that work.
I've found density laws wildly accepted, its a building boom in Newberg as people add ADU's and more housing. I don't know where you get your information, but if you own a home in a growth boundary in a small town in Oregon, its "Lets build an ADU" time like never before.
I don’t even understand this comment at all. So the solution to NIMBY activists controlling local government is to do... nothing? You know YIMBY is itself an activist movement right? Activist isn’t a code word for “crazy left wing people I don’t like”, it just means people who are hyper politically active (moreover N/Y IMBY is not clearly demarcated on political lines IMO).
All you have done is said the person you are replying to is an idiot for YIMBY but the only argument is that they support Breed. That’s definitely part of the problem but in SF the board of supervisors also hold a lot of power and those are more important. Also, Breed is supported as a least-worst candidate.
Since you understand politics so well you understand Mayor Breed can't unilaterally write housing policy. She has to work with the Board of Supervisors. The Board is dominated by a group of politicians that aren't really YIMBY supported as far as I know.
Since your reading comprehension is so high, you'll agree then that supporting yimby groups won't be sufficient to generate the credible threat that the original comment suggests will be sufficient to dissuade investors
Yes. Do better than this: "If there's a credible threat to build plenty of housing, they'll move on."
What's needed is a mainstream, national name-n'-shame strategy that identifies specific officials and offices that are causing the block in housing. Make the target highly specific and concrete, and ensure the messaging is big tent -- don't make it anti-municipal government. Make it anti-zoning.
It's a waste of political bandwidth that most Americans know the name of at least one random House Rep that represents their partisan opponent either because Fox News or MSNBC, but none of us has any idea about the bureaucrats who are making terrible anti-housing policy decisions every day and driving up the cost of owning shelter.
Maybe it's because people disagree with you--people who like where they live and don't prefer radical changes and ideas. Maybe you should go talk to some of them and learn about what they want and why they prefer stable policies.
What you call "anti-housing" others call "pro-stability."
I think this assumes that diversity of opinion among an electorate is what's responsible for one movement's ineptitude. The movement to change zoning can improve AND reasonable people can disagree about it's outcome. If your only point is that there are pro-zoning people who disagree with me -- that point is obvious and does not conflict with anything I've said.
The Yimbies supported Mayor Breed. She hasn't changed the political problems in SF that you're (for the most part, accurately) diagnosing here.
The problem with most anti-activist government screeds like this is that they lack the same nuance and sophistication they would bring to, for example, commenting on a market analysis. I'm almost certain your position here is "end zoning." I'm fine with that. But it takes way more than shit posting, and the people who believe what you do are literally at the top of the city's government in San Francisco, and nothing has changed.
You need a better understanding of politics and a sharper theory of change. Just applying your own premise to this comment, investors are actually relying on people like YOU failing to learn more about politics and failing to understand how to better communicate about politics. YOU are part of the problem, not above it.