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Files will only be returned for accounts that have been active installs for some time already, and only probabilistically in low percentages based on phone number sharding. We have a few different versions of files that we think are aesthetically pleasing, and will iterate through those slowly over time.

Pretty sure it's the former, since the above is a way to ensure that Cellebrite can't just gather all implied exploit files and make sure they've got those specific problems all patched. This is, quite literally, an informational attempt at guerilla/asymmetric warfare, where Signal is trying to make engaging with them too costly, while also making a few blows quite a bit above their weight level. Cellebrite now has to decide whether to keep after this adversary that both is hard to pin down, ambushes them, and has shown it can hit them really hard where it matters (credibility, and thus their pocket book).



This indeed looks like a FUD statement, implying that they can have an infinite amount of potential vulnerabilities. Realistically though, writing parsers that do not yield control of your whole device is not that complex. The people exploiting iOS zero days can certainly do it.


You're not wrong at all, but if they're shipping these garbage ancient versions of ffmpeg, there are likely oodles of other bugs lurking around. And, if Cellebrite acts like most other companies who've had their awful security exposed, they will fix only this bug and leave everything else.


It's not that hard but neither is shipping patched versions of ffmpeg. This company will have some catching up to do.


But it might be easier for Cellebrite to just stop exfiltrating data from Signal. Of course, other apps could discover similar vulnerabilities.


That's not enough. With file system permission, Signal could place files anywhere (like prepared gifs in the Pictures folder).

I think this taints any phone having Signal installed.


the signal are capable for finding more exploit with more time. important piece is that exists now a reasonable doubt on data from the celebrite, so it are not so good for evedince.




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