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How do these come into private possession?


Actually in general, what _should_ happen to the property of a government that gets dismantled?

On the one hand, this stuff probably gets into private hands by theft at some point, and it hardly seems just to legitimize opportunistic plundering.

On the other hand ... the state which owned it went out of existence. It's not as though there was a German government whose property rights were being infringed.

Perhaps the Allies could have fastidiously gathered all the assets of the German military and held a big liquidation sale at Alexanderplatz, and used the proceeds to buy food for the refugee camps.


>It's not as though there was a German government whose property rights were being infringed

It's pretty common to regard a country as having a claim on looted artifacts even after a change in government. It kind of seems to be taken for granted in a lot of discussions.

e.g. https://www.npr.org/2018/06/28/623537440/hobby-lobbys-illega...

Nobody seems to particularly care whether the Sumerians, or the city of Irisagrig, still exist.


> the state which owned it went out of existence

Not really. They just got new elected officials. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_of_Germany


> On the other hand ... the state which owned it went out of existence.

The current German government sees itself as the successor to the previous German governments.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_Germany for more detail than you ever wanted to know.


Exactly. It was Germany--the same one that exists today--that marched into its neighbors, conquering them and enslaving segments of their population. In the U.S., it's common to hear people say "The Nazis invaded Poland" or "The Nazis bombed London" but if you go to Poland, they'll say "The Germans invaded us" and if you go to London they'll say "The Germans bombed us."

I don't know why it's common to pretend otherwise.


When speaking about the state, I (UK) fairly often hear people refer to "Nazi Germany", instead of just Germany (and sometimes used as "Nazi Germany invaded Poland"). With the people though, it's generally just "the Germans".


Warbooty both on a personal level and at the state level - operation paperclip etc.

My first job was based on campus at Cranfield University and they had v1 and v2 parts left over from post ww2 analysis.

If you go to Bovingdon tank museum - there are a number of exabits from the Gulf wars


Like payphones after a disaster




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