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He's being lionized on HN for making money, while he's polluting the written heritage of the human race. Not a chance I will take it elsewhere. He needs to be called out, to his face, as does anybody who thinks he deserves HN's respect.


Mostly I see people expressing sympathy for a guy who had a really bad day (and a newsworthy one.) And if you think mahalo is polluting the written history of the human race, then boy do I ever have some spam to show you. Mahalo may not be the best, but it certainly isn't the worst.


"And if you think mahalo is polluting the written history of the human race, then boy do I ever have some spam to show you."

GP's point: X are spammers and get undeserved respect on HN. Your response: there are worse spammers. Do the spammers also get undeserved respect?


Borderline stuff may actually be worse than blatant crap, because the borderline stuff is harder to classify as crap.


Borderline stuff might be useful to some extent, to a minority of people. Blatant crap is - well - blatant crap with no use to anyone.

I accept your point about it being harder to classify, but I don't see how the SE's job being harder can equate to slightly useful content being worse than outright spam.


How many of those sites had the sustained level of traffic that Mahalo had for years?

Also note that Mahalo enjoyed that level of traffic based on auto-generating pages through shagging third party content (without requesting permission and without any way to opt out of getting your content scraped, since they were pulling in the scrapes from Google's search API & you couldn't block Mahalo doing that without blocking GoogleBot).

In the past when Matt Cutts wrote of such MFA scraper sites he described them as "shoot on sight" http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/im-on-webmasterradiofm/#commen...

"In the chat room, I said hello to teeceo, but I know the stuff that he was doing and it’s shoot-on-sight. I think anyone who is blackhat knows (or should know) that I’m happy to talk to anyone, but that we’ll still take action on the spam we find."

And yet you have sympathy for Jason? Shows how powerful his public relations skills are! :D


I honestly couldn't care less what happened to Mahalo and I pretty much agreed with all your points when you first revealed their ways of creating tens of thousands of useless pages, but nevertheless I also have simpathy for Jason.

I think not many people on HN realize (or probably are willing to admit) that This Week In Startups is the most interesting resource to learn from real experiences of fellow entrepreneurs, developers, etc. Mixergy is another interesting one, but the format of TWIST provides its viewers lots of insights and info that you simply can't get anywhere else on the web.

So not all Jason does is evil.

Just my two cents.


How is posting on an anonymous internet forum with an account you just created hours ago telling him 'to his face'?




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