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There are similarities to Mt. Gox. One of the most important is the near-complete lack of user panic, despite ample warnings, right up to the collapse.

I remember vividly seeing Mt. Gox users warned to leave. They didn't. Somehow, they discounted or ignored every warning. Then they became angry when their money was stolen. Then they claimed Mt. Gox was responsible for their loss.

History seems to be repeating itself here. Tether holders somehow don't see, can't see, or refuse to see the writing on the wall.



To be fair, plenty of people tried to withdraw from Mt. Gox and were stonewalled [1]. Which, one can imagine, exacerbated the problem.

1: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1po4gq/mtgox_slow_...


Withdraw of bitcoin was possible for many months while withdrawal of USD was blocked.

I can't tell you how many /r/bitcoin posts I saw in the months leading up to the final closure of BTC withdrawal that went something like: "why is the BTC price so high on Mt. Gox compared to other exchanges?"

This post gives you an idea. Note the first response and how difficult it is for users to actually see the dead canary:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1w6qxm/mt_gox_arbi...

Mt. Gox would accept USD deposits, but not withdrawals. You could move your bitcoin out, but not your USD. There were also shenanigans with trading bots.

The post you linked to applies to USD withdrawals only. BTC withdrawals continued for some time, but many users decided to ignore to the dead canary and let the Bank of Gox hold "their" money for them. One of them was a well-known Bitcoin Core developer.


This is more accurate. There was a relatively lengthy period before the collapse when you simply could not withdraw.


The difference between mtGox and this is that bitfinex is seemingly infinitely solvent. Some estimates are like 20-30 million revenue per day. Its the top running exchange. I doubt they would expose themselves to a bankrupcy event having such a cash cow.

I believe they did market manipulation, and that they are committing fraud with tether, but I'm not convinced tether is not solvent.


>Its the top running exchange.

So was mtGox.


mtGOX was insolvent because they lost all their assets, thats not the case for bitfinex as far as we know. That is independent from tether itself, it can happen to all exchanges.


>as far as we know

Yes, precisely the sort of information an audit would reveal. Curious, then, that despite their repeated pledges for robust auditing they first declared they'd engaged a firm to do those audits that didn't actually do audits, then terminated their relationship with the second, legitimate auditor.


An audit of tether would not show you if bitfinex is solvent or not. Even if tether as a project is a total failure, bitfinex could pay at length for its shortcomings.

Plus, they made most of the money on the play itself.


What if they covered up other breaches?


We would have seen the losses happen in real time on various blockchains for ETH, BTC, BCH, etc.


There is no reaason to believe that happened afaik.


It's similar to Bernie Madoff as well. Harry Markopolos spent years trying to warn people that he was running a ponzi scheme, and he was ignored until the whole thing finally blew up.


And they are entirely right to claim that Mt. Gox is responsible for their loss. Writing "scam" on a giant red flag in front of your door is not a valid waiver of responsibility.




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