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Got to admit I was hoping it'd be a coffee-ish colour before I sorta parsed the colour in my head and realised it was mostly green.

With that said there are some pretty cool ones (e.g. 5afe57 = safest = a green) that do match up. Can't say I can think of many hugely practical uses for this, but it's kinda neat!



Coffee beans before roasting are infact "Green"[0] and are referred as green coffee. The roasting process makes it brown.darker.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_roasting#Roasts


That's a very good point! I can't say I've ever roasted my own coffee, so it's something I've not experienced in person. I hear you can buy green beans and roast them with a popcorn machine though, which sounds kinda fun to try.



To make this a bit more on-topic for HN: http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=45932

The above describes creating a bread-machine "Coretto" roaster. (I still have no idea why it's named that). A heat gun (for paint drying) from Harbor Freight (~$15, it's almost always on sale) is used for the heat. The bread machine is torn apart so it permanently spins, and never turns on the heating element.

After using it manually a bit you'll get the bug too. Eventually you'll want to control it electronically. I still have to actually do it...


That's really cool, thanks for those links. You've given me something to look into for the next side project!


I also plan to use 54FE57 somewhere. Have to do that.

Though with the numbers in the beginning it's not as readable as e.g. BADA55.


It's a little more readable if you change the 4 to an A, which doesn't significantly change the color: #5AFE57.


Yes indeed, and that's what's on the site. My bad typing that on mobile...

Still the 57 does not really directly translate to ST in my head at least.


Hmm. BADA55 didn't make it on to that site, strangely enough.


Color of Kerbals ;)


They parsed an English dictionary. You mean the dictionary didn't contain badass? gasp :)


Hmm. I've always wanted to parse colours in my head.

How do you do that?


These CSS colors consist of 3 bytes in hex, the first gives the red value, second green and the last is blue.

So:

  #FF0000 = 0xFF, 0x00, 0x00, which is pure red
  #0000FF = 0x00, 0x00, 0xFF, which is pure blue
  #FF00FF = 0xFF, 0x00, 0xFF, which is red and blue mixed, so it's purple (violet)
  #FFFFFF = 0xFF, 0xFF, 0xFF, all colors combined is white
etc

#C0FFEE = 0xC0, 0xFF, 0xEE, so by 'parsing' it in your head yo can see is mostly green and blue, combined that's cyan.


Yes but you grew up typing hex codes into a home computer connected to a tape drive. You know what 8192 looks like in binary but everything beyond 65535 you struggle with because you didn't have the registers for that on your 6502A.

It probably irritates you to see images scaled to 1000 pixels rather than 1024. What about that jpeg cell that is not 8 pixels square? Think of the computational overhead and the need to go floating point just because someone does not think in bytes. It is too late to tell them now, these kids ain't spending winter typing in hex. Hex to them is like BCD is to you and who needs binary coded decimal these days when emoji's need to be mastered?

I don't mean you personally, just them folk that know their hex from learning to code that way. I think hex is important but it seems most front end developers would prefer not to know.


You don't even have to decode the actual number, just comparatively figure out which one 'looks bigger'. In more steps than necessary to be abundantly explicit:

Step 1: group into two characters each.

Step 2: know that hex is an extension of decimal that adds the digits A-F after 9. So just like 0<1, 9<A and A<B etc.

Step 3: find the biggest and smallest groups by comparing the first digits of each. If they match they're pretty close.

Step 3a (optional): guestimate the intensity of each color by thinking of the first digit on the scale from 0 is least intense to F is most intense. (5: somewhat less than half, D: pretty close to max, 1: almost none etc)

Step 4: use your knowledge of additive color mixing to guestimate the color.

You don't need to be able to map each digit to its' decimal equivalent first to get a general guess. If you're missing Step 4, then you can still figure out mostly-primary colors like #D53A1F. Step 1 should be trivial. Step 3 can be guestimated.


Though I can read and even compare hex numbers easily, I'm with you that it would be great to just represent colors in "rgba(75 100 93 80)", i.e. colorspace(percents) format anywhere and to not deal with cryptic strings.

Moreover, RGB isn't great at all. We need "10% lighter than deep purple", not #ec12e4. All the mind-calc is done in these terms anyway.


> I think <INSERT_THING_HERE> is important but it seems most front end developers would prefer not to know.

This is my experience. There are two types of people in this industry, people who want to make money quick and those who are technologists.


I disagree. Not wanting to learn hex does not make you less of a techie. One can only focus on so much, and tech is huge.


In Australia you learn about base-N numbers in primary school, I don't understand why you see that as a huge undertaking. Ultimately if you ever have to check the mode of a file on *nix, or interact with bitmasks in any way, you're going to run into numbers in different bases. Not to mention memory addresses when debugging.

I mean, it's not _mandatory_ but it's something you'll run into eventually (though since I do quite low level systems programming, I expect that I see hex a lot more often than web developers -- though CSS colours are also in hex).


File modes are typically written in octal, not hex.


What my point was meant to be is that you deal with numbers in different bases all the time. Fixed.


Doesn't this apply to all sorts of professions in every industry? It's not a particularly unique insight.


I would be surprised if a frontend developer didn't understand hex coloring.


What would you guess is the ratio of each?


In my experience, I tend to think it's something like 30% technologists, 70% money makers. Unfortunately, barely anyone (including myself) wants to see themselves as the second group (for the record, I think I'm on the second group).


I'm sorry, but if you don't know how to read simple hex numbers for colours, and you're unwilling to learn, you probably shouldn't be in this game.

It's like when people complain that they failed to install desktop Linux in the last couple of years - sure in the 90s that was a very valid complaint, and early last decade it was tricksy too. But now? It says more about them.


TBH, in 90s I just pushed disk[ette] into the drive and booted into installer. Today I have to go through all the DVD-ISO-to-USB3-EFI hassle before it even boots. And then it still has no idea of how to install into that single partition that I created.

The fact that users cannot just install the OS and use it after 2+ decades says more about OS, not about users.


I mean people on here, who are supposed to be technically minded. I'm not really sure what hassle you're talking about, but I was very specific in talking about people who proudly claim to have failed, here.

My mother? Like most people, she might have trouble, but she probably doesn't even know what an OS is. A hacker news poster in 2017 should know better.


I think you're mistaking tech-minded with linux-experienced. I am definitely tech-minded (unix & c are main tags) and was linux-experienced. Solved any issue in minutes, hours or days. Now I can't make my soundcard work in Debian because: A). I don't know the stack anymore. Pulseaudio, alsa, setting managers, etc. B). I don't want to dive in there again to get more amazing brand new details about how sound meant to be played at modern days on my 11yo PC with AC97 chip.

I was like that too. Losers can't install, tune, [read hex colors,] etc. Then you realize that your time is finite, that your overall awareness has FOV parameter, that issues never end, they evolve. If you focus too much, you're solving local problems that should not be there in the first place, and these are not yours. So, things are wrong, not your FOV. Fix things, not yourself. Know hex for hardware, not for colors. That's what your parent's rant is about.


No, I'm not, and please read again, I was very specific.

If you can't install linux in 2017, you can't really consider yourself technically able.

I said nothing about getting every piece of hardware going. I said nothing about tuning anything, I said nothing about resolving issues or fixing things yourself.

If, between the big distros (and particularly ubuntu) you can't even get it installed in 2017, when linux in various forms is so widespread, and the installers are really not much more complex than the windows one, you have problems. I've watched linux installs go from hideously complex beasts invokving typing in monitor tolerances and manually selecting arcane package-sets to try and make anything work to something supremely easy. Are you really going to argue that installing Ubuntu on generic hardware is sooooo difficult we shouldn't expect someone who is supposedly into tech and a capable programmer to be able to click through an installer? Really? Because to me that's an expectation on a par with writing fizz-buzz,the lowest possible barrier to entry.

The parent rant is trying to say that kids today don't need hex, and that it's a fuddy-duddy old man skill reserved for those who grew up coding in assembly on 8-bit processors. As this very topic shows,I don't think that's the case.


I'll skip linux part because it goes nowhere without considering that specific case with someone on HN who failed. But doesn't your last sentence involve circular logic?


Well, I invite you to watch out for the linux comments next time such a topic comes up.

As written, my last sentence is indeed circular, and poorly phrased, yes :)

I was trying to say that this topic shows the skill useful, if not essential. What I said was that my opinion is clearly my opinion!


Also that it is bright and somewhat unsaturated, because its lowest component is 3/4 of full intensity.


Hex colors are RRGGBB; if you look at C0FFEE, you can see that it's all-green, almost-all-blue, and significantly less red. So it's going to be a near-white color that's green/blue.


You would recognize how 00 through FF indicates more/less presence of each of rgb for every two characters, and combine from there. IE ff0000 would mean fully red no green no blue. It takes some practice to remember how the different combinations add up.


> Got to admit I was hoping it'd be a coffee-ish colour before I sorta parsed the colour in my head and realised it was mostly green.

#ACE71C is quite acetic, on the other hand.


there is also #F1A5C0 / FIASCO


Seems like a great gamer handle. It's leetspeak, a decent name to go by on the servers, and it's a color. One could maybe theme a site in tune with one's nickname that way.


check www.sevacoffee.com - start with raw green beans and roast, grind & brew every cup to make the ultimate cup of coffee.


> With that said there are some pretty cool ones (e.g. 5afe57 = safest = a green) that do match up.

Unfortunately 'secede' is blue rather than gray...




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