When you're embezzling money the last thing you want is to reveal enough information about your stash to show up on these lists.
Saddam Hussein obviously had tons of liquid assets but the totality of them was never truly known. It was all squirreled away, and likely stolen by the caretakers when his regime imploded and the threat of retribution was removed.
How much did Pablo Esbobar have at his peak? We can only guess, but given the staggering cash-flow rate of an estimated $500 million per week, perhaps as much as $30 billion. This is 1980s dollars, too. Adjusted for inflation that's absolutely nuts.
in the /r/conspiracy realm - it is widely believed that the reason for Gaddafi's execution was to go after the billions he had - and to take him down. The idea is that the Benghazi fiasco was let loose by the state dept so that HRC could loot Libya... its not provable - but the fact is that Gaddafi was one of the worlds richest ppl - and the rumor is that HRC and cabal stole all his loot.
He was worth a reportable 70 billion.... and unknown amount off-books...
He was murdered for his money. And anyone who says that is not true is fucking clueless about what the fuck is actually happening in this world at that level.
OK, I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but this is just crazy.
So, in your scenario, HRC wants Gaddafi's money. So she orchestrates an attack on a US embassy nearly a year after he died, as a false flag operation. And then we sent people in get the money. Of course, officially we didn't send anyone in Libya in response to the attacks except some more marines to guard the embassy, so this group that went in to get the money did so secretly. But then why did they need to orchestrate the attack on the embassy? Why not just send spies in under cover? Also, where is the money in scenario? Is there some big fucking safe filled with gold bars in his palace that none of the militants have touched in that last year?
Oh, also you don't think Gaddafi's execution had anything to do with a prolonged civil war and numerous human rights violations? Or did Clinton also invent the Arab Spring and force Gaddafi to be a brutal dictator for decades?
Sorry - but you're accusing me of a timeline I had not stated.
I said that fuckery was afoot -- I didn't give any timeline or sequence to events...
I simply stated that Gaddafi was murdered for his money (and the fact that he refused to bow to the Rothschild central banks, and wanted to run his system on a gold standard) -- I did NOT stand up for anything regarding his character, dictatorship or anything. And yes - I personally do believe that HRC is a criminal (as is trump) I only put faith in Sanders, but almost exclusively I am apolitical.
So keep fucking on topic - Gaddafi got killed for a reason we will never know, and his ~$70 billion dollars evaporated to who-knows-where.
> Sorry - but you're accusing me of a timeline I had not stated.
That was my best guess at a timeline for your conspiracy theory. Would you care to give an alternative?
You're also kind of all over the road here. First you say "I simply stated that Gaddafi was murdered for his money" but in the next paragraph you say "Gaddafi got killed for a reason we will never know". And you follow that up with "and his ~$70 billion dollars evaporated to who-knows-where" when just before you proposed that the money was taken by HRC. And you seem really certain at least some part of this is true, saying "He was murdered for his money. And anyone who says that is not true is fucking clueless about what the fuck is actually happening in this world" but then respond to someone calling your theory "a rumor". I honestly don't know what you believe or don't
I apologize for not being salient in my sentiment.
Gaddafi was killed, he MAY have been the richest person alive at the time, the US had many reasons to want him gone... HRC MAY have profited off his death - and we do not know where his money went.
Perhaps the people who worked for/with Gaddafi stole it (at least some of it) -- perhaps HRC profited off it.
its all out in the ether and we shall never know the truth.
OK, first, I am not trolling - and I didn't state that this was my belief per-se...
I do find all the Benghazi BS to be super weird - but thats just me without all the facts...
However, it is a documentable fact that Gaddafi may have been the richest documentable person (clearly we are ignoring the Rothschilds etc...) in the world...
He had vast assets and liquid cash all over the place. This is known - so do not accuse me of trolling on facts...
Further, it is known that HRC is a corrupt person (proven via her emails and many many other resources -- if you are unaware of this, then you're simply unaware and I am not trolling)
I said that it is RUMORED to have been financial motivation to go after Gaddafi... did you ever see the list of countries that Clark said the .gov was going to go after? Libya was on that list...
now, I shall admit my ignorance - as I am not entirely familiar with the libyan civil war, but I know my CIA history a fair bit... arab spring was an op. to foment a varied amount of things... civil wars here, uprisings there, extremests wherever... and change all over.
I never said Gaddafi was some benevolent anything -- I said he was sought for his money and executed CIA fashion.
so.. let me ask you: What happened to all the 70+++ billion dollars Gaddafi had? He was killed - what happened to his wealth?
I know that you have no fucking clue. So... what is your speculation?
I'd imagine a lot of his liquid assets were seized by militants. From some googling, it seems some portion of his wealth was in a bunch of real estate he owned. I imagine those have also been seized, those that weren't destroyed. But the most part his wealth was invested in several western countries. Per http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/21/world/la-fg-kadafi-m... that money has been seized by the governments in question. But before you go "see, HRC took the money!" those assets were seized over a year before the war in Libya, so it's unrelated. That which hasn't been seized has probably been taken by his various money managers.
People that are very good at hiding money for the ludicrously and criminally rich are also, not surprisingly, very good at making money disappear.
If your biggest client just got killed in a coup do you really think you'd go through a lot of trouble to track down his various relatives as they're being systematically captured and/or executed by the uprising? No, you'd quietly wrap up all those trusts and funnel the money to safer places, like the bank accounts of yourself and people you trust.
You denigrate my comments yet you just state a reinforcement of my speculation "criminally rich are also, not surprisingly, very good at making money disappear.
this was the premise of my post!
Money went someplace, and we dont know where it went - did HRC profit off it or not....
When something seems odd, maybe you don't have all the facts that would instead paint a much better picture. You're like someone with two pieces of a jigsaw puzzle who's convinced it's something perverted but really it's just a fruit bowl.
You've literally provided nothing to this conversation other than talking shit to me. So fuck off unless you have a better contribution. Answer the following question with some fact, Astroturf:
You're slinging far more shit in this thread than are the people replying to you, and you know perfectly well that accusing other posters of commenting in bad faith or of astroturfing isn't acceptable here.
If you're going to bring speculation from the "/r/conspiracy" crowd onto this forum, which you won't even admit to believing yourself, you should expect and tolerate the inevitable reaction that follows.
Cool - thanks - so rather than provide any refuting evidence to something I stated was a RUMOR, you post this drivel. So - if you are so informed, please update me.
Can you please tell us which other people are billionaires?
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Are you trusting the same publications that George W Bush and republicans turned into paid propaganda to say that Iraq as Le weaponzzz of mass destruction? Remember NYT, WaPo, CNN were the major trusted news orgs that GOP bought.
