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Despite the convenience factor, it isn't great to use a manager tied into your own ecosystem. It should exist outside, with the minor factor of lesser convenience.

Could Firefox extensions be included?

No, not really. This reads like ornate hand waving to distract from different threat models and situations.

A lot of safety is down to accountability. A distribution through an attributable marketplace or being verifiably signed.

Safety isn't a performative action, so reading a script may still confuse you or you may miss subtleties. But opting for a safer install mechanism makes a huge difference, which is we always ought to prefer apt, dnf, over the likes of curlbash, brew, npm.


I'm Not sure that I agree that it is automatically safer to prefer apt or dnf, and I'm definitely sure that it is not safer to prefer npm.

Safety is about managing risk. One element of managing risk is evaluating trust. I'm thinking that there are much fewer people I have to trust by copying the curl | bash install method from homebrew's secure website.

But at any rate, I completely agree that piping a curl'd script directly to the shell should be considered unsafe, even if it's from a trusted source. It's quite easy to do additional checks to reduce your risk significantly for this type of attack. You could read the contents of your clipboard with a hex editor and check for non-ascii characters. But wait? How do I install the hex editor? Don't I need a hex editor to check the install method of the hex editor? AAAAH! It's turtles all the way down!!!!


Here you go: http://localhost:8080

Just took a look at what's running there and it looks like total crap.

The project I'm working on, meanwhile...


login: admin password: hunter2

What's the password? I only see ****.

hunter2

I only see **. Must be the security. When you type your password it gets converted to **.

claude please generate a domain name system

If it's limited to the US then the US filter doesn't look necessary, you could save some vertical space there.

This will be an amusing post to revisit in the internet archives when or if they do introduce ads in the future but dressed up in a different presentation and naming. Ultimately the investors will come calling.

History is littered with challenger companies chest thumping that they’re never going to do the bad thing, then doing the bad thing like a year later.

"Don't be evil."

> The goals of the advertising business model do not always correspond to providing quality search to users.

- Sergey Brin and Lawrence Page, The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine, 1998


"OpenAI"

They are using this to virtue signal - but in reality it's just not compatible with their businesses model.

Anthropic is mainly focusing on B2B/Enterprise and tool use cases, in terms of active users I'd guess Claude is distant last, but in terms of enterprise/paying customers I wouldn't be surprised if they were ahead of the others.


See Github, which doesn't have display advertising.

History shows that software companies with large chunk of their platform being Free to Use mainly survive thanks to Ads.

It goes well beyond free to use models unfortunately.

I believe Perplexity is doing this already, but specifically for looking up products, which is how I use AI sometimes. I am wondering how long before eBay, Amazon etc partner with AI companies to give them more direct API access so they can show suggested products and what not. I like how AI can summarize things for me when looking up products, then I open up the page and confirm for myself.

Won't all the ad revenue come from commerce use cases ... and they seem to be excluding that from this announcement:

> AI will increasingly interact with commerce, and we look forward to supporting this in ways that help our users. We’re particularly interested in the potential of agentic commerce


Why bother with ads when you can just pay an AI platform to prefer products directly? Then every time an agentic decision occurs, the product preference is baked in, no human in the loop. AdTech will be supplanted by BriberyTech.

if llm ads become a real thing, let’s acknowledge that this is exactly what will happen in no uncertain terms.

The only chance of that happening is if Altman somehow feels sufficiently shamed into abandoning the lazy enshittification track to monetization.

I don't think they have an accurate model for what they're doing - they're treating it like just another app or platform, using tools and methods designed around social media and app store analytics. They're not treating it like what it is, which is a completely novel technology with more potential than the industrial revolution for completely reshaping how humans interact with each other and the universe, fundamentally disrupting cognitive labor and access to information.

The total mismatch between what they're doing with it to monetize and what the thing actually means to civilization is the biggest signal yet that Altman might not be the right guy to run things. He's savvy and crafty and extraordinarily good at the palace intrigue and corporate maneuvering, but if AdTech is where they landed, it doesn't seem like he's got the right mental map for AI, for all he talks a good game.


There are a number of different llms - no reason they all need to do things the same. If you are replacing web search then ads are probably how you earn money. However if you are replacing the work people do for a company it makes more sense to charge for the work. I'm not sure if their current token charges are the right one, but it seems like a better track.

yeah it’s either that or openai has effected a massive own-goal… im leaning toward your view, but hoping that prediction does not manifest. i would be fine with all sorts of shit in life being more expensive but ad-free… but this is certainly a priviledged take and i recognize that.

My thoughts exactly. They are using the Google playbook of "don't be evil" until it becomes extremely profitable to be evil.

You really think the giant ad company would put ads into their product after saying they won't? You should strive to be less cynical.

What are some good GPUs to look for if you're getting started?

If you want to actually run models on a computer at home? The RTX 6000 Blackwell Pro Workstation, hands down. 96GB of VRAM, fits into a standard case (I mean, it’s big, as it’s essentially the same form factor as an RTX 5090 just with a lot denser VRAM).

My RTX 5090 can fit OSS-20B but it’s a bit underwhelming, and for $3000 if I didn’t also use it for gaming I’d have been pretty disappointed.


At anywhere from 9-12k euros [1] I’d be better off paying 200 a month for the super duper lots of tokens tier at 2400 a year and get model improvements and token improvements etc etc for “free” than buy up such a card and it be obsolete on purchase as newer better cards are always coming out.

[1] https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/2063285...


It's sad to see this degree of incentives perverted, over adhering to local laws.

I have found I'm always having to steer it in the right direction. I will think I've given it the right amount of instructions but it tends to do dumb things in ways I haven't anticipated.

I think it's quite telling then, that a large amount of links posted on HN are sadly still to xitter

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