Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | jister's commentslogin

So in order for you to develop a payroll system you first need to know how to create a database?


Well, to write a high performance payroll system with lots of concurrent users it helps a lot to know how the database you’re using works internally.


There are situations where one uses a full featured abstraction like a database without needing to understand fully or modify it's internals. This is simply not one of them.

This is a situation where building a new applications with handmade layers that produce the outcome you want is more efficient than gluing together existing code.

You're coming at a complex problem by initially filtering the solution space. This discards much of the potential solution space for which the average case may be more expensive than The average case in the space after culling. However in many situations that solution space has many gems which are more efficient. Companies' tolerance to selecting those rather than using existing technology varies.


You have the quote slightly wrong, in order to understand a payroll system you first need to know how to create a database.


Knowing how a database is constructed and having to building one for the project are two different things. Yes friend, if a database is a major component of your system you should know how it works under the hood. They’re quite complicated and impose significant constraints on the system you’re building.


Well, yes, you should know _how_, even if you’ve never actually taken the time to do it.


If you are making a commericial product that features an in-memory database that can store non-standard types of data perhaps.

More often than not you would just use an existing product if you are not going to add any value.


That’s what they say, if they require a CS degree to work there.


Sure, why not?!


Something I found:

"Pulitzer Prize-winning piece peddled fake news"

http://www.manilatimes.net/pulitzer-prize-winning-piece-pedd...


The Philippine press is not free. Duterte has made his "fake news" nonsense a key part of his project to crush opposition media. It's no surprise that the Manila Times has gone out of its way to avoid stepping on his toes, although the overheated stuff about 'communist propaganda' is maybe a little too obvious.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/15/world/asia/philippines-du...


Or maybe you can read these instead?

"Responsible journalism also means complying with the law," said NPC President Paul Gutierrez in a statement released Tuesday. "To say that the fate of one media entity found to have run afoul with the law translates to media repression in the country is stretching the argument a bit too much."

"The SEC finding is quite clear: that Rappler Inc., has indeed violated the law when it allowed the entry of foreign investors and also allowed, specifically, Omidyar Network Fund LLC, to have control on 'corporate matters' of Rappler based on its own submissions to the SEC"

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2018/01/18/NPC-on-SEC-ruling-...

http://opinion.inquirer.net/110628/rappler-stop-misleading-e...

http://www.manilatimes.net/rappler-stop-misleading-everyone/...


Yes, it's unsurprising that the pro-government press supports the government's campaign against their rivals.


Or maybe there's really no need to politicize everything?

If you are a local you should know that CNN is a liberal press and but they are also trying to be neutral (which we appreciate). Inquirer is notoriously anti-government and manilatimes is neutral.

The point is that journalists should report facts and not be partisan. The quality of Pulitzer Prize winners were put into question when the story that they wrote were not backed up by evidence as to what the manilatimes article pointed out. A couple of police sources doesn't make up the entire police force.

And about Rappler, our consitution says that media should be 100% Filipino owned. Rappler received funding from a foreign company, Omidyar Network, and allowed them to have control of corporate matters. This is a red flag that is why SEC did an investigation. It is really that simple. No need to politicize it.


Sure it was sugar-coated but I thought this was obvious from the beginning?


In the Philippines, the old school journalism that you are referring is dead. Most journalists here can be bought and this is a fact. We use social media to get information from government agencies pages without the "spin" included.


And there are journalists that are corrupt, paid by politicians, paid by drug lords. It is hard to believe the news coming from official journalists. Foreign journalists must go to the Philippines and investigate themselves. If this kind of article the world believes, and Duterte will be kicked from his precidency then my neighbor would like to celebrate and be back into his drug business.


The "spin" is included in the reports given out by those gov agencies ;) It's a pretty neat way for the government to manipulate its people.


In the west that might be the case, check and balance for journalists. Our previous administration used to do that as well. Duterte doesn't want to spin information. If you're in doubt you can request something from their Freedom of Information website.


I truly hope you’re paid for this, and not a true believer.


Would accepting money to defend a mass murderer really be any better though?


Mass murderer? You have no idea what you're talking about.


He certainly aspires to be. Here he is, unedited, expressing his desire to slaughter 3 million drug addicts: https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2016/sep/30/philippi...


His government has murdered thousands of people. If that's not mass murder...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/07/world/asia/ro...


Yep a website full of spin. It's a joke.


What's the argument here? Those people didn't really die? Or do you have an alternate explanation for who killed them, something the NY Times isn't telling us the truth about because of their secret liberal agenda that extends to the Philippines for some obscure reason?


I might get smacked down by the mods for this, but I don't really care in this particular case, because someone needs to say it. It takes a seriously repulsive human being to justify/defend what Duterte is doing. You should really re-evaluate your belief system, because it's severely defective.


Coming from someone who haven't been here? You're a joke. All the sources that you're linking are from Liberal leaning media which are full of spin.


Paid for what exactly?


>> On the other hand this Duterte guy seems to be the usual violent dictator kind and there is no way I can get behind that.

An actress twitted that Duterte is a psychopath and his response was: "I leave her to her Constitutional right to free expression. She should enjoy that".

Dictator right? Some of Duterte's dictatorship plan include:

1. Federalism so that power can be spread throughout the country not in one place only 2. Freedom of Information


For those reading this thread who aren't aware of what's happening in the Philippines, this is the guy that you are defending:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/30/rodrigo-dutert...

>Rodrigo Duterte vows to kill 3 million drug addicts and likens himself to Hitler


For those who are only relying their information on the internet and who are not physically present in the Philippines that's a rhetoric.


Mass murder is mass murder even if a populace is brainwashed, though I would would wager when you have death squads wandering around and use the cover of drugs to take out political opponents to gain power most people would side with you out of fear anyway, like most oppressive dictatorships. People like you are disgusting, you want to support such mass murder on genocidal levels fine but don't be surprised when people shun you. If it we're up to me you should be the one getting murdered for supporting this shit rather than all the innocents killed so far and pending due to fucking chemicals.


People who have not been in the Philippines and are saying things that they don't know are just plain ignorant. For you to even accuse me of being disgusting just proves how naive you are about me and my country.


It is disgusting to support an administration that lies about the statistics of drugs to justify their failing war on drugs that has also taken the lives of innocents from children to bystanders (which the government simply called as "collateral damage" [0]). How many times has our government lied to us about the statistics?

2015 - 1.8 Million Drug Users from a study by the Dangerous Drug Board [1]

2016 - Duterte claims that there are 3.7 Million Addicts in the country [2]

2016 - Months later, Duterte claims that there'd be 4 Million by the end of September [3]

2017 - On May, Philippine Drug Agency says there's now 4.7 Million Addicts [4]

2017 - On September, Foreign Affairs Secretary (and Duterte's VP running mate) hiked the number to 7 Million Drug Addicts at a UN Assembly [5]

Tell me, if his war on drugs is such a success, then why is the number of junkies growing?

sources:

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/17/duterte-says-c...

[1] https://www.rappler.com/nation/146654-drug-use-survey-result...

[2] http://news.abs-cbn.com/focus/07/25/16/read-transcript-of-pr...

[3] http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/09/23/1626648/duterte...

[4] http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/05/04/1696547/pdea-ph...

[5] http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/09/28/1743577/cayetan...


The number is "growing" to give Duterte and his friends justification to ramp up and continue their mass murder campaign and allow them to continue convincing the brainwashed masses that they're in constant danger and need their "protection" from the evil drug zombie hordes.


It is disgusting to link sources from those Liberal Party leaning media outfit which we Filipinos know that are full of crap. Look for a journalist that is fair when writing news and I will acknowledge it.


So the UK's The Guardian is now a "(Philippine)Liberal Party leaning media outfit". That's an amazing troll.

I'll bite. What is your source of "fair" news these days?


You can find other references from both local and international media, even video recordings, if you think the links I posted aren't deserving of your attention.


You know we can read and hear Duterte's speeches for ourselves, right? Also, he's not unique, in either the Phillipines or the world. It's easy to compare him to Marcos or various other dictators that have engaged in brutal public order campaigns.


What do you mean when you say that's a rhetoric? How does that make it ok when he's saying he wants to be like Hitler and slaughter 3 million people?


it might not be okay in your country but in ours in came to a point that criminals here are not afraid of the law anymore. on my way to work i saw a criminal stabbed someone in broad daylight and then walk away like noting happened without fearing the police which is just a few blocks away.


Do you think Nazi Germany is a good model for how to fix your country?


Are you suggesting that the video of that press conference is fabricated?

Why is my physical location relevant to criticising death squads executing people in the street?


Some drug people got killed by drug lords to hide their identity but media concluded it was done by death squads since the cases weren't solved until now. Probably there exists, but what's the concrete evidence?


Like this one where Maria Ressa, without further investigation, just published the news. Months later it was found out that the one who killed the guy was an assassin from the drug syndicate.

https://www.rappler.com/nation/185962-pieta-michael-siaron-d...


Actually it was the Inquirier that published that story, not Maria Ressa: http://www.inquirer.net/?page-one=july-24-2016

Your link is actually the government's rebuttal that it was a drug syndicate killing, which Rappler has dutifully published.

But then again, never let facts get in the way of your hate for Rappler right?


Your physical location is relevant because your knowledge about what's going on in the Philippines is very limited. The fact that you are saying about death squads proves my point. THERE ARE NO DEATH SQUADS HERE! Watching a few videos doesn't make you an expert about Philippines.


I'm from the Philippines. Am I allowed to comment? There absolutely are police death squads roaming around, so much that Philippine National Police's involvement in the drug war had to be removed after there was too much outrage from the populace. They were even caught executing unarmed kids on CCTV for fuck's sake. Just because you're biased towards our fucktard President and can't accept the truth doesn't mean others are just as blind as you.


The "death squads" or criminals that you are referring too are already part of the police several presidency before Duterte took office. Some of them are involve in drugs and have been killing before Duterte came so why are you blaming the president now?


Because back then we didn't have a president that encouraged cops to just kill: http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/07/02/1598740/duterte...

Or congratulated cops after they killed 58 people during drug raids in a single week: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/17/544128734....

Those drug raids lead to the CCTV footage of cops executing an unarmed 16-year old kid who was already in handcuffs, btw.

Or has repeatedly vowed to pardon and ask for the reinstatement of the cops that have been charged with the murder of a drug lord inside his jail cell in the middle of the night: http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/31/17/duterte-vows-anew-to-p....

Those cops are now free on bail


"And if there is a resistance that would place your life in jeopardy, then by all means shoot and shoot him dead. That is my order"

To defend the people is one of the basic duty of all police here and abroad so what's wrong with that? That's the message of the first article that you linked.

Of course he will congratulate his men about putting their lives on the line for you and others. Plus of course his usual rhetoric (did you take that seriously?)

We all want those policemen found guilty of crimes to be in jail. But did you ever think of who will replace them? You want the military to uphold the law just like back in the martial law days in the 80's? We have a deteriorating police force for a very long time but thanks to Duterte there are a lot of new recruits today. I see them training every day on my way to work.


I assume those policemen would be replaced by other cops that HAVEN'T been found guilty of crimes yet, which isn't going to happen if Duterte keeps protecting dirty cops right?

No I don't want the military to be upholding the law, and I hope you do not too. Which is funny because Duterte has enforced martial law in the whole of Mindanao to quell a conflict in a single city which he himself has declared as already liberated back in October, and now there are rumblings of extending martial law to 2018. Doesn't that alarm you?


Well, there's lots of people who make excuses for police murdering people in the US too. Eventually the scale of the corruption and malfeasance becomes clear and then you'll say you were against these death squads from the beginning.


First you say there are no death squads, not at all no way, no you're saying those people were already in the police. When someone's story keeps changing like that it's always a bad sign.


Are you from Philippines? From what I know people there are quite happy of Duterte work despite the overzealous rhetoric. If you are in US I can't see how can you criticise him given that death penalty is quite widespread there and a lot of times the trial is a farce especially if you are black.


I'm writing this from the Philippines. The problem here is that this country has a very weak commitment to rule of law, even though the Constitution of 1987 is based on the US Constitution. The big difference though, especially with regard to the large number of extra-judicial killings that have been carried out under Duterte's administration and with his approval, is that the victims were killed without a trial at all. Say what you want about the US death penalty and the fairness of it, but you cannot be put to death in the US by the government without a trial and legal representation. The Philippines glorifies vigilantism and "banana leaf justice" (because the murdered victims are often covered with a banana leaf or a piece of cardboard with "pusher" scrawled on it) Whataboutism doesn't change that.


I heard a series of "on the street" interviews with Filipinos recently and one was with a couple, one of whom approved of Duterte and one who did not. When the guy, who approved of Duterte, was asked about extrajudicial killings he said something along the lines of "yes, that goes overboard sometimes. Aside from that he's good."

That attitude is even more unsettling to me, somehow. "Aside from all the murders he's committing, things are going well."


As far as I know he didn't commit any murder, do you have proof of the contrary?


Are you denying that there have been extrajudicial killings, or are you denying that the person who gives the order is responsible? Just curious.


> but you cannot be put to death in the US by the government without a trial and legal representation

I agree with you mostly, but um, if you pay attention our cops shoot and kill thousands of people per year, many of them unarmed. And we have a president that was lauding this practice (and praising Duterte). We're nowhere nearly as bad as Duterte, but we're heading in the wrong direction.


> shoot and kill thousands of people per year, many of them unarmed

Closer to one thousand, 10% of whom were unarmed (that 10% includes all the cases where police believed the victim was armed when they actually weren't; believed the victim was reaching for a weapon; believed the victim was using a car as a weapon; cops killing their wives/girlfriends while off-duty; etc.).

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/... (filter by "Classification" to see only gunshots)


One innocent person killed by police is one too many. Especially when they are acquitted every time.


Cops 'believe' everything is a weapon.


Granted.


you cannot be put to death in the US by the government without a trial and legal representation

You shouldn't, but you can certainly be killed by someone working for the government. You need to check this out, even though the video footage is disturbing to say the very least: http://www.newsweek.com/police-release-graphic-video-officer...


> Are you from Philippines? From what I know people there

Is his argument invalid if he's not in the Philippines, but yours isn't?

> If you are in US I can't see how can you criticise him given that death penalty is quite widespread there

Because maybe he doesn't support the death penalty in the US either.

> and a lot of times the trial is a farce especially if you are black.

As compared to the trials in the Philippines? Here's what it looks like:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/07/world/asia/ro...


My wife is from Philippines, I go there pretty much twice a year, I know a lot of people from Philippines, so maybe I understand their situation a bit better than the countless keyboard warriors that write here without even having put a foot in the country...


This is literally textbook Soviet-style whataboutism.

1. Assert people are happy with the system

2. Ask "What about the civil rights movement in the U.S.?" to deflect from human rights abuses


You're defending a guy who brags every chance he gets about murdering several guys. Are we supposed to believe that footage of him is fake?

Let me guess, you support Trump, too? I never would have guessed that so many of my fellow Americans were such authoritarians. I knew there were some, of course, but it looks like they may comprise around 30-35% of our population. Tough times ahead for the liberty-minded...

Look, I get the appeal of Duterte. I'm sure that a large percentage of Filipinos are happy with his behavior. That doesn't mean it's right.

Finally, tu quoque is not a very good verbal defense tactic. Most people disregard it other than the people who already agree with you. Most famous example of this technique is Stalin's use of "and you are lynching negroes" [1]. He wasn't wrong, but that didn't mean he wasn't also carrying out political murders on a massive scale. It's just poor rhetoric.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes


We've seen a lot of footage from your media that were edited. How do you explain that?


So you maintain that Duterte has not bragged about committing extrajudicial killings?


The US has problems with criminal justice, but let's not even compare. Duterte is not even on the same league.


German people were happy with Hitler too. And the US had death penalty in the 1930s.


Do I need to have lived in Nazi Germany to talk about the crimes of the Nazis?

I'm not from the US and I'm a vocal critic of US governments, past and present. But even if I was American, the actions of the US government wouldn't be something it was within my power to change and wouldn't be relevant to what Duterte is doing.

Adopting the rhetoric of the Stalinist USSR isn't helping your case here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes


You need at least to know something about the things that you speak about. I can't really stand people that feel entitled to babel about everything without having the slightest idea of the subject they are discussing.


Well, as I said above, I'm in the Philippines, and I'm here to tell you that it's rather troubling what's going on here from a civil rights perspective. Hundreds of journalists have been killed here since the era of the Marcos administration, and the Philippines (and Pakistan!) are among the most dangerous countries in the world for journalists.


that's because a lot of journalists here can be paid. this is a fact. for example, a certain mayor in my city doesn't want to pay his electric bills so what he did was pay journalists to write black propaganda about the president of the electric company to destroy his reputation. and when that wasn't enough he paid the news commentator of an infamous radio station. this happened a decade ago.


For someone who likes to make such broad assertions you don't make any effort to substantiate them. And you're implicitly condoning murder as a response to journalistic corruption. How do I know you're not being paid?


FYI, since 2016 a certain Liberal Party Senator and Maria Ressa wants total control of social media and internet.

For those who have no idea about the Philippines and its politics. Rappler is a George Soros funded media outfit and Maria Ressa is well known Aquino (former president) or Liberal Party apologist. In the Philippines, Facebook, not twitter, is the more popular medium people used to engage in social media and politics and Rappler is losing the social media battle in Facebook that's why Maria Ressa is so desparate to get the attention of foreign media. And, from what I read Rappler is in trouble with funding.

The main reason why people are staying away from Rappler is becuase they spin almost all of their news about Duterte and the present administration. Yes there are fake news in Facebook but there are certainly a lot of fake news in Rappler, really.


Bullshit. Fake news is different from bias. CNN is biased. Fox News is biased. Rappler is biased. What they don't do is pass of fake information or rumors as news, like saying "since 2016 a certain Liberal Party Senator and Maria Ressa wants total control of social media and internet." You're entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts.


You should watch the 2016 senate hearing


So it's not Duerte that wants total control of media there, but people who he is after, do I read it right?


Since when did Duterte wants to control social media? Liberal Party wants to control social media since 2016.


I'm sure they want to take control of the social media, since Duterte has pretty much been spreading fake news [0] along with his facebook army of trolls [1 & 2] to discredit the opposition. And sometimes even members of the Duterte cabinet [3] are doing it as well to link the opposition to a terrorist conspiracy. He even has some control in twitter, having been discovered by a social media analytics firm that 20% of those who mention Duterte are actually bots [4].

sources:

[0] http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/19/17/duterte-says-he-invent...

[1] http://preen.inquirer.net/58185/a-list-of-mocha-usons-fake-n...

[2] https://memebuster.net/thinking-pinoy-apologized-posting-fak...

[3] http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/905074/robredo-slams-aguirre-fo...

[4] https://newrepublic.com/article/138952/rodrigo-dutertes-army...


>He even has some control in twitter, having been discovered by a social media analytics firm that 20% of those who mention Duterte are actually bots [4].

How is that credible evidence of “having some control in twitter”? Because 20% of his mentions are bots? any major politician going to attract the attention of automated press wire bots and aggregators, the idea of using that as evidence is a conspiracy theory.


Apologies then as perhaps I've misworded there. I was trying to say that his presence extends to twitter and that it is at least significant/worthy of attention.


To discredit the opposition, really?! You're naive. The opposition needs not to be discredited because of their fuck ups for 6 years!

Read about how the former President Aquino and his Liberal Party cohorts who approved the UNTESTED dengue vaccine, DengVaxia!!! It was discovered recently when Sanofi Pasteur declared it as unsafe. Now because of the stupidity of those people 700K+ kids will pay the price because of their greed?! How many already died up-to-date?!


If they are, then what's with all of these trial by publicity, spreading of fake news, and making of baseless accusations? And by the way, the opposition isn't solely composed of the Liberal Party. I guess it's a result of the propaganda machine that labels anyone that's against Duterte as an LP supporter.


Kids are dying and the former administrator are trying to cover it up. If you can't wrap around your head with this better shut the hell up.


I know that and they better be investigated and held accountable, but that doesn't excuse the faults of the current administration.



Oh dang. An appeal to 'vice news'. here comes the unbiased truth fo sho..

or, alternatively: the orthodox usa-slightly-left liberal-democratic corporatist globalist line, only cool and with more bite


From the article that you linked:

"But before Duterte took office, as president-elect, he sent a chilling message to a press corps ready to report on his presidency: "Just because you're a journalist, you're not exempted from assassination, if you are a son of a bitch," he said casually at a press conference. "Free speech won't save you, my dear."

>> The problem is when a foreign journalist, like Gianna Toboni, writes something she know little about so let me give you a little more background about that statement. What Duterte said that "you're not exempted from assassination, if you are a son of a bitch" was NOT a threat but a FACT. It is a FACT that decades before the Duterte presidency journalists here were being killed simply because journalists (FACT) here can be paid and used for black propaganda by politicians. We know what he was talking about.


It's always troubling when authority figures need people to explain what they meant instead of being able to state it clearly themselves, but since you say Duterte was making a comment on the past, perhaps you'd care to explain why he's doing so using the present and future tense.

This is the second post in the thread where you've basically said that murder is an acceptable response to journalistic corruption. As you're so in love with your 'FACT' perhaps you can give us a factual definition of what makes someone a 'son of a bitch.'


What is more troubling is when people like you, who have no first hand knowledge, insists that you know better by just reading a few articles on the internet. And, you're pathetic to assume that murder is acceptable.


I haven't insisted on anything, and you're just attempting to duck the questions I posed.

Duterte specifically speaks of journalists risking assassination and you're OK with that. Assassination is synonymous with murder so you shouldn't have any problem with my use of the term.


come on you can do this without tech, it's called discipline.


I am not American nor do I live/work in the US but every time I read articles from Western media that mentions Trump I am 100% sure that the "Russian" word will be mentioned somewhere in the article. For an outsider like myself the blaming on Russia is getting out of hand. Maybe Russia did something or NOT but I still haven't seen any evidence up to now.

It's a shame that we are in the last quarter of the year and yet people there still haven't moved on.


> Maybe Russia did something or NOT but I still haven't seen any evidence up to now.

The Wikipedia article[1] is a good place to start, and to my eye seems fairly comprehensive. Many users of Reddit have also done quite a good job of periodically summarising the state of the investigation and evidence when these discussions have arisen, e.g. [2].

As a side note, I believe you were genuinely interested in the topic, but constant use of "where is the proof?" in the face of readily-available evidence and high-profile reporting is a tactic so commonly employed by pro-Russian state astroturfers that it has become the subject of ridicule[3]. This has unfortunately poisoned the discussion pool a little so it may be useful to keep in mind in case the topic is broached in future.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_20...

[2] https://np.reddit.com/r/PoliticalDiscussion/comments/5hhn4t/...

[3] http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/proofster


It seems to me, that, even accepting Russian interference, to say that the interference was strong enough for explaining the results, instead of other factors, is just ridiculous, and the burden of proof should be in the proponents of that theory.

It seems to me, that people all around 'the West' is angry because 'the establishment' have failed then. Instead of changing their ways 'the establishment' have decided to find a scapegoat and, in fact, blame the system. When democracy don't give the results we want, we are not so democrat anymore.

The result of this discourse, the subtext, is: "see what they voted? how they dared to vote outside the program? you can't trust voters anymore". That sounds like a very dangerous message to me.

By the way, as a non American, I think that the irony of USA complaining about interference on internal electoral processes is really high.


For decades now, there has been a significant chuck of the nation's fringe (10-20%) who simply CANNOT accept a member of the opposite political party as a legitimate President.

All through the 90's, the talk radio fringe used the same argument that Bill Clinton's victory wasn't truly legitimate because he didn't win a majority of the popular vote. And they had a special prosecutor follow him around for his entire Presidency, pretty much on a fishing expedition (younger people might not remember this, but Ken Starr stumbled across the Monica Lewinsky thing years into the process).

All through the 2000's, the fringe left rejected George W. Bush's legitimacy, because they felt that it was decided by a Supreme Court with a thin majority of Republican appointees.

President Obama spent 8 years assuring people that he isn't a Muslim, and wasn't really born in Kenya. It sounds like parody, but roughly 1/3 of partisan Republicans seriously believe in this conspiracy theory (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-persiste...).

Today, partisan Democrats just can't let go of the "Russia hacked the election!" conspiracy theory... even though, from an independant's perspective, they sound flatly insane. At BEST, someone with ties to Russia leaked some embarrassing emails from a criminally insecure mail server. If HRC hadn't been the worst Democratic nominee in decades, then it wouldn't have mattered regardless.

I don't know what's going to happen with the next inevitable handover in 4-12 years. But it's a pretty safe bet that the next Democrat will be seen as "illegitimate" by roughly one-fifth to one-quarter of the nation as well. This is just the not-so-new normal.


I feel that, while you're not wrong about the ongoing de-legitimization of the presidency, there's a danger of drawing a false equivalence here.

The 2000 election really was decided by a Supreme Court with a thin majority of Republican appointees (in a state governed by the winning candidate's brother, under circumstances of serious, fraudulent voter disenfranchisement). And there really was foreign interference in our last election, in favour of the winning candidate - it's not really a "conspiracy theory" when President Obama literally called Putin on the red phone to ask him to stop. Whether you think it was effective or not (and there's no possible way you can know), there's no doubt at all they tried.

Conversely, Obama was definitely not in any shape or form born in Kenya, and Clinton's lack of popular vote was as immaterial as Trump's.

Only one of these sides looks "fringe" to me.


I think Russia interfered in the election, but I don't think Trump is an "illegitimate president". There's no such thing, constitutionally speaking. He won, that's a simple fact. He is the President.

Just wanted to push back on your smearing of anyone who believes Russia interfered as a partisan nutjob. Lots of people, including the IC, the military, and most GOP members of congress believe that Russia interfered. Skepticism is understandable but your inverted confidence seems misplaced.


What's wrong with using a document management system instead of this?


Most DMSes utilize a "check-in/check-out" process, meaning that only one person can work the document. Others can work on "copies," but there is no way to sync their changes back into the main document stored in the DMS.


Exactly. It means incompatible changes have to be merged manually later. It causes problems with large reports where, for example, an electrical engineer may be editing one section and a civil engineer another, but only one can have the document checked out at a time. It's possible to break large reports up into many small section reports, but that's a workaround to the real issue.

It also means that when someone checks a file out and then goes home for the weekend without checking it back in no one can update the file in the DMS without administrator support.


...or just putting your docs in version control and using Word as the diff/merge tool?


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: