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Random plot idea:

Imagine the year is 2035.

Crash & Burn had a kid, and that kid is now a young adult.

An agentic ClosedAI has granted itself chmod 666 on the interwebs, and is wreaking havoc on a global scale.

Hackers of the world must unite once again to overcome evil.


Certainly not the only old fart ‘round these parts.

Your comment reminded me of Dr Dobbs Journal for some reason.


Dr Dobbs was pretty good until almost the end, no? If memory serves me well, I recall the magazine got thinner and more sparse towards the end, but still high signal-to-noise ratio. Quite the opposite of Ars T.

Huge debt of gratitude to DDJ. I remember taking the bus to the capital every month just to buy the magazine on the newsstand.


I would go to the library on my bicycle to scour for a new copy of DDJ as a 10 year old.

I had dreams of someday meeting “Dr. Dobbs.” Of course, that was back in the day when Microsoft mailed me a free Windows SDK with printed manuals when I sent them a letter asking them how to write Windows programs, complete with a note from somebody important (maybe Ballmer) wishing me luck programming for Windows. Wish I’d kept it.


Anyone remember "Compute!"? I still have (mostly) fond memories of typing in games in Basic.

Actually, bugs in those listings were my first bug-hunts as a kid.


Compute!, Dr. Dobb’s, Kilobaud Microcomputing, Byte. Good magazines that are missed.


I finally subscribed to Dr. Dobbs for the Michael Abrash graphics articles, about a month before he ended them.


Like tears in rain <3


I didn’t catch this reference, so adding the below for other folks in the same boat:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

“Eternal September or the September that never ended was a cultural phenomenon during a period beginning around late 1993 and early 1994, when Internet service providers began offering Usenet access to many new users. Before this, the only sudden changes in the volume of new users of Usenet occurred each September, when cohorts of university students would gain access to it for the first time, in sync with the academic calendar.”


More generally, it's whenever the expert to newbie ratio in a community crosses a certain threshold and never returns.


I’ve probably watched Hackers over a hundred times. My all time favourite movie. My first crush as a young teenager was Burn. It led to a career in software. So many kindred spirits on this thread - makes me smile.

And after 30+ years of watching Hackers, it only occurred to me recently that the biggest noob in the movie Joey beat the Gibson, twice. Sure he had assistance the second time, but still poetic imho.

Hack the planet <3

You’re in the butter zone now, baby!


Hackers inspired me to start digging around on my FreeBSD laptop and learn how to setup a bitmap image as boot splash, just like the kids in the movie all had their own custom boot image.

Just a few years later I dropped out of school and started my career, haven't looked back since.

My first boss who gave me my first chance, and my 2nd job through referral, he dropped out of 7th grade to start his own business. He was once interrogated by police, and they had brought in some experts from a big ISP, and these "experts" had no idea what he was talking about. :D

Wild years...


> crush as a young teenager was Burn

Who hadn't?

I was a young adult back then, but the sense of adventure in the movie brought my memories of BBSs and creative misuse of telephone lines, X.400 networks, and dial-out modems. Fun times.


I had just started getting an interest in computers and went to the cinema with my boyfriend at the time who was (and remains) a classic computer programmer. I remember sitting in the cinema with him, both of us laughing hysterically at the ridiculousness of it all. I felt like I was in the in-crowd to understand the film was all artefact and fashion, but for all that it captured something accurate about the community's need for belonging, in spite of the anarchic messaging. I feel that hasn't changed much and maybe it's why we still love this movie, along with Sneakers, Silicon Valley, Office Space and War Games. Maybe it's also why coder movies like The Social Network and Ex Machina don't resonate as community favourites because they don't bring an inclusive experience.


The ad campaign was super campy, there were print ads in comic books, I remember making fun of it before the movie came out - this can’t be any good, they are going to misrepresent computer geeks, it’s going to be stupid. Of course as a teen I didn’t think it was authentic enough but over time I look at it with more respect. I showed it to my 10 year old not too long ago (forgot that there was a little nudity, oh well) and I was proud of claiming the culture it represented. The thirst for knowledge, the irreverence for authority, all of the different kinds of people making a community based on shared interest and respect, all night hackathons, the adults who just don’t get it - and yeah, the music and the fashion. That’s the stuff that matters, not a hacker using a Mac or goofy technical gibberish, and that’s the stuff they got right. It was a special moment in time, and I’m glad the movie is around to encapsulate it.


> You’re in the butter zone now, baby!

I've seen the movie countless times. It was only last year that I learned it was "butter zone" and not "border zone". And I never understood why Nikon called it "border zone" as it made no sense in context. But I also had never heard the term "butter zone". So there you go.


For me that was War Games that got me into this world and career. Always felt like I owe Broderick a Raspberry Pie or something


The use of the soda can pull tab to ground the receiver to get a dial tone was my moment as I was a noob phreaker well before being a hacker. How many kids watching that movie would even know what was happening today? Would they even know what he picks up off the ground let alone the actual phreaking


Let alone the receiver. Or the concept of the pay phone as a whole.


And that actual "dial" on the phone...


I've never seen Hackers. It was War Games for me, too.


I love them both but they are entirely different. War Games was going for a degree of verisimilitude. Hackers is extremely stylized.


War games was an excellent film. Hackers was a terrible film. Not sure why people are celebrating such a cheesy film.

Also no one remembers cloak and dagger.


Because War Games didn't have Jolie in it. Maybe that? It was rather awful. A one-watcher.


I listen to the hackers soundtrack regularly when coding. It’s ideal.


Absolute classic, especially Halcyon


The combo of the visuals and Halcyon is exquisite.


Yeah, me too. And I gobbled up the Phreak culture from my danish small town life, dreaming of late eighties AT&T escapades with my crew of cool street kids… RISC is good.


Man, I didn't see hackers for the first time until probably 5 years after I wrote my first line of code. I still watch it to this day but I got started when I saw "wavy colored text" in an AOL chat room. Yup, colored sup and sub text. Fascinated me as an 11/12 year old and I picked up Visual Basic 5. Good times


Hack the planet! <3


- I'm Crash Override. - You're the moron that's been invading my turf?!


Not sure why, but my favorite is:

- I thought you was black, man. YO THIS IS ZERO COOL!


We would have been good friends then. My and my friend group watched it so many times.


Trust your technolust!


"Check this out guys, this is insanely great, it's got a 28.8 BPS modem!"


Joey! One more 'dude' and I'll slap the %#!% out of you!


"im a real wild child i'm a wild one, im a wild one!!"


aaaah! joey! joey! thank you everybody!


"I'm not an addict. Can I get some more coffee?"


Not mentioned in the article, so I'd like to give a shout-out to cmus.

https://cmus.github.io/

For all my fellow terminal friends <3


yes, GUI players come and go, cmus stays.


Cool idea!

Is the terminology correct though?

Looking at the showcased disks, in my youth we called these “stiffy disks” - owing to their stiff plastic casing.

We also had “floppy disks” - but these were larger (in size, albeit with less storage capacity) and floppier (the plastic case would bend easily).

I treasured my burgundy Dysan stiffy disk boxes!


At least in the US, the "floppy" terminology carried over when the disks went from the actual floppy 5.5" disks to the hard-case 3.5" disks.


thanks, that's an insightful comment.

so defs not a globally consistent usage of the term then?

judging by the article's authorship, i'm guessing denmark and US the same

so perhaps US and EU but not elsewhere?


I only became aware of the use of a different term than "floppy" for the hard 3.5" disks when I opened this thread- you'd have to ask the person I was replying to where they're from.


I was under the impression that a floppy disk is referring to the substrate that holds the data, not the cartridge that contains it. So a 3.5" floppy disk would be "floppy" in contrast to a 3.5" hard disk drive that has rigid metal or glass platters.

This nomenclature could be a regional thing though (I'm from the US).


I have never heard that term (for disks). Are you possibly from the UK or Australia?


> I have never heard that term

Are you also from the US like the other commenter on this sub-thread?


Italian here, and I never heard of the term either. Everybody always used the term floppy also for the 3.5 disks

I guess that since it was a foreign word the physical connotation of the term was simply lost, and "a floppy" was just the disk that your computer used.


as a 31 year old, I only just last year learned that what I have thought were floppy disks and everyone calls a floppy disk are indeed a stiffy...


i feel like you're onto something here...

a marketing campaign for middle-aged men perhaps



This is great thank you!


Neat, thanks for the insight ^_^

Any particular DML tests you’d recommend for the benchmark? Or thoughts on this in general.


Glad that helped!

Perhaps you can start with comparing 1,000 individual INSERTs (each with its own COMMIT) vs. 1,000 INSERTs wrapped in a single BEGIN/COMMIT block. This test is particularly interesting for comparing different RDBMS because it reveals how each engine balances data durability (ACID) against performance. You will likely find that some DB have a much higher tax on commits than others, which is a key factor in choosing a DB for a specific use case.

Since you are in C, please make sure to use prepared statements. If you send raw SQL strings, you are partially benchmarking the string parser of the DB rather than the actual data manipulation. Also, remember to "warm up" the DB with a few hundred runs before you start the timer, otherwise, the results will be skewed by the initial disk-to-memory cache loading.


Thanks so much! ^_^


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