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I think you already jumped to far. You can't break the law when the law is broken by every other tier of society.

Sorry, try again!


Yeah, the idea that YC will disown unfettered capitalism seems dreamy.

We'll do everything, it seems, other than holding billionairs accountable for what their businesses consume.

In many countries, its illegal to manipulate prices in bulk.

What makes it manipulation? If 5 companies want to buy a quadrilion ram chips to build datacenters, why is this manipulation moreso than a million companies each wanting to buy 100 ram chips?

I think the problem is that both the buyers and producers are too large. Governments should not allow companies to become this big, because... <gestures broadly at everything>. If there were a thousand ram makers and a thousand datacenter builders, this particular problem would not exist.

But you can't just label any price evolution you dislike as "price manipulation".


>What makes it manipulation?

Their size and the effect on the market they have

>×If 5 companies want to buy a quadrilion ram chips to build datacenters, why is this manipulation moreso than a million companies each wanting to buy 100 ram chips?

Because they are 5 companies, especially when it can be shown they work in unison (formed a cartel)


It's certainly price manipulation, but not likely to be intended price manipulation. Your arguments are flawed but you have reached the right conclusion.

This is one of the many flaws of badly regulated markets.

(There are no free markets, and there is never perfect information, and people often behave remarkably irrationally for many reasons.)


Reading through the Epstein file, it's naive to conclude that no collusion is happening.

Remember when FAANG was caught red handed manipulated hiring to depress salaries?

Just seems like a lot of astroturf-ish behavior ignoring real world happenings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel

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It's interesting how little you've examined similar cases. And you some how assume good faith in their behaviors.


On the plus siide, we all get to learn how few new computers are needed rather than chase number goes up.

Its not the only thing needed. To do anything, first you need major databases to implement.

"A few"?

"Real" user verification is a wet dream to googlr, meta, etc. Its both a ad inflation and a competive roadblock.

The benefits are real: teens are being preyed upon and socially maligned. State actors and businesses alike are responsible.

The technology is not there nor are governments coordinating appropiate digital concerns. Unsurprising because no one trusts gov, but then implicitly trust business?

Yeah, so obviously, its implementation that will just move around harms.


The Epstein classes argument is: If youre not my property, why should We care?

There certainly is a pretty on going miscalculation regarding human intelligence, and consrquentially, empathy.

The risk-reward of over paying employees who are risk adverse is why this works for most employers.

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