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If you committed fraud during your immigration paperwork, such as lie about being a convicted rapist or murderer, you should lose your citizenship.

Yeah with as much accuracy as the current ICE aktion on US inhabitants... In a perfect system maybe you can justify this, but when the system is ship them off and let them try to appeal that the government had no evidence from overseas then the law is effectively "cost people their job, their lifestyle, and their support system and keep them out of the country for a year or two (or permanently if they don't have savings), if they do anything I don't like"

The account isn’t a normal user. They literally only post stuff like this. Their comments are just official links back to said announcements.

Louisiana has a bunch of French law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Louisiana


And your point of trivia is not applicable here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals... -> Louisiana isn't in the list for the court that handled that trial.



[2003]. I don't see how a description of the problem from 20 years ago, with a proposed solution much different than what is being done at the moment, has any relation to what I said.

I agree that the looting of much of our industrial base was a terrible thing to let happen. That doesn't mean applying a solution that would have been appropriate decades ago will have the same effect now that the horses have long ago left the barn. It's merely setting us up for the next trend by which we will be sold off.


Maddow and MSNBC made the same argument in court. It’s a very useful defense for these entertainment news programs.


A pox on all of them.


That's because no one can make that conclusion definitively yet. They want your brain to assume that connection. Conspiracy theorists are the kings at this psychological trick.


> That's because no one can make that conclusion definitively yet.

There's a problem here though: if things do eventually deteriorate (which, admittedly, there is a change will not happen), it may be too late to fix things.

If things get broken they are broken, and in this case you have risk of people's lives. And the people who did the jobs that were fired have probably moved on because they have bills to pay. If you can realize your mistake quickly enough, you can fix it quickly. This is what happened when the Very Stable Geniuses fired the folks who maintained US nuclear weapons:

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43130613

Perhaps instead of l33t h4ck3rz in DOGE they should hire carpenters or woodworkers: people who, instead of a mantra of "move fast and break things", live more by "measure twice and cut once". Some measure of where the (alleged) waste is could be useful before cutting.


I agree that DOGE is bad. But I also think it's unhelpful to claim evidence of a bad outcome directly caused by what they've done. It muddies the water and bolsters people who want to argue that people are only criticizing them out of bias.

If it's true that they got all the tornado warnings out because they were able to be "all hands on deck" for a night they knew would have high risk, then I think this just isn't the example of DOGE getting people killed that the article wants it to be.

I fully believe that understaffing these offices could get people killed. But we don't need to claim it did until it does.

And that doesn't mean we should wait for something awful to happen to criticize the risky situation!


That's mostly the thing with safety measurements. If they are there you do not recognize them and if they are missing and something happens it's hard to proof if it would have changed anything.

Have a look on "Heuristics That Almost Always Work" https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/heuristics-that-almost-alwa...


DOE has its own massive farm of experts: https://www.energy.gov/intelligence/office-intelligence-and-...

There’s 17 intelligence agencies that all staff knowledgeable experts on all sorts of topics. Our government is Leviathan.


I feel the same way but I’m not sure if I should.

The internet wildly speculating would probably get back to my mom and sister which would really upset them. Once I’m gone my beliefs/causes wouldn’t be more important than my family’s happiness.


Wouldn't your family want your believes followed through at least?


True, which is what a notary is for. You could encrypt the data to be leaked at a notary, with the private key split using shamir's shared secret among your beloved ones (usually relatives). If all agree, they can review and decide to release the whistleblower's data.


This statement confused me, but according to Wikipedia the job description of a notary is different in different parts of the world. If you live in a “common law” system (IE at one point it was part of the British Empire), it is unlikely that a notary would do anything like what you are saying.


I’ll never forget after de Gaulle ordered all American soldiers out of France, US Sec of State Dean Rusk retorted “Does your order include the bodies of American soldiers in France's cemeteries?"


I imagine curiosity like most things on HN.


There's nothing particularly interesting about the dude's appearance. I recommend saving yourself a click and moving on.


So why are you so interested in this thread and people's interaction with the photo?


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