This is a somewhat recent new "feature" to force group calls, even if they're accidental. It's not what most people I know want, and there is no way to disable it for a group, just as there is no way to disable audio messages anywhere. WhatsApp is made to the lowest common denominator, UX is secondary to market share.
Every single one of those demons is also a chimera and so if you look, there’s a half elephant, half fish in the top left corner. If you look in the top right, there’s like a half fish half horse. So if you look at the gaping demon butthole again, and look at the rest of the features around the gaping opening. You’ll realize that it is the lower half of the creature and it is a sea creature you can see there’s like a coral tentacles thing behind it. It’s just a fish‘s mouth. That does also happen to function as the demon‘s butthole, apparently
Calm down, John Rambo. Even if USA could prove that it wasn't a false flag op, it won't "kinetically strike back" against China, Russia, India, or even small allies like North Korea.
USA is only willing to fight very asymmetrical wars.
Please don't cross into name-calling or personal attack and please don't be snarky in HN comments, no matter how wrong another comment is or you feel it is.
Sure, of course it's not that simple. If China for example did a cyber attack it doesn't necessitate an immediate kinetic response or some sort of gargantuan nation-state level warfare to take place.
But if one of those countries shut down the US power grid we absolutely would respond and you're naive to think that the US would not respond out of some "fear" about only fighting very asymmetric wars.
Amongst some there seems to be this idea that because the US has taken military action in other countries over the years, more recent being more important, and because those countries "couldn't fight back" that the US is unable or unwilling to take further action against other nation states that theoretically could fight back (India could not, for example as a weak military power with nuclear weapons), but instead I'd caution you look at those action with respect to the ability of other countries to take action.
In other words, it feels good to throw in zingers like the US only beats up on weaker countries or something which, let's be frank would be every country or bloc except China, but you're missing the fact that those countries are not even able to project power to or willingness or ability to attack other countries.
I only remember that if one US state loses power the other states laugh about it because obviously it is because the current governor is a black female democrat. It'd be great progress to actually detect what caused it in a timely manner and then do a proper cyber attribution.
Generally I think you are using a lot of big words to compensate for the fact that the US ignored the Minsk agreement.
The russian government has been publicly joking about Trump, broadcasting nude pictures of the first lady and boasting about possessing the Epstein tapes. Before that was the hack of Hillary's mail server and fake news campaigns. No kinetic repercussions, even red carpet for putin's visit in Alaska.
Apart from all this a modern drone war would be a big problem for the US, and countries like Ukraine, russia and china are much better prepared for such a scenario.
> I only remember that if one US state loses power the other states laugh about it because obviously it is because the current governor is a black female democrat.
Yea that's obviously dumb, but the difference is you hear about America's problems, but not the problems in other countries. Russia has its oil facilities regularly bombed. China has institutionalized corruption down to the local level. It's not all peaches and rainbows in every country on earth.
> It'd be great progress to actually detect what caused it in a timely manner and then do a proper cyber attribution.
Who says we aren't?
> Generally I think you are using a lot of big words to compensate for the fact that the US ignored the Minsk agreement.
Can you elaborate? What's the broader point you want to get at here?
> The russian government has been publicly joking about Trump, broadcasting nude pictures of the first lady and boasting about possessing the Epstein tapes. Before that was the hack of Hillary's mail server and fake news campaigns. No kinetic repercussions, even red carpet for putin's visit in Alaska.
Yes, totally. The United States should have bombed Russia for publicly joking about Donald Trump. Give me a break. Why even post stuff like this?
> Apart from all this a modern drone war would be a big problem for the US, and countries like Ukraine, russia and china are much better prepared for such a scenario.
Who do you think is operating in Ukraine and advising the Ukrainians and learning from their drone warfare techniques and capabilities? Do you really not know how this stuff works? Are you not aware that the United States is actively testing weapons in Ukraine to prepare for drone warfare? Is that why you're saying stuff like the US should have a kinetic response against Russia for posting pictures and joking about Donald Trump?
> Can you elaborate? What's the broader point you want to get at here?
I mean that by ignoring Minsk agreement and being a bitch about weapons deliveries on top of that, the US incentivized every single country to pursue access to nuclear capabilities.
> The United States should have bombed Russia for publicly joking about Donald Trump. Give me a break. Why even post stuff like this?
They started with the public humiliation after they felt empowered because there was no credible US response to all the previous hacks that you glossed over in your response.
Yes, the US stopped credit card payments and destroyed some payment terminals. I imagine they weaponized the apple and android devices, maybe this still continues. For a couple of days, we had those impressive russian rockets which turned around and destroyed their launcher. And of course the geofenced US weapon systems. But was US able to shut down any vital russian systems except starlink and McDonald's?
Old lavrov still walks around openly with his apple watch just to farm payloads. US had to keep up social media access and steam for russians because that's their most convenient surveillance capability. Even Porsche was able to remotely shut down their cars allover russia, last I heard the American car brands are still working within russia.
> Who do you think is operating in Ukraine and advising the Ukrainians
There are observers from many countries on the ground in Ukraine, and US might even be testing some weapons. However US efforts are overshadowed by better performance of European weapons systems, both old and new. As Germany was unable to supply Taurus, European engineers stepped up and helped Ukraine design long range missiles.
Meanwhile the US artificially limits supply for US systems, so they get destroyed because they need to preserve ammo. I don't see how the situation for US gets better in the future as more and more proud boys take over key positions. Look at the defense minister who can't use a damn phone and is more interested in tattoos.
There is a lot of empty posturing and the results are really not speaking for the US.
> I mean that by ignoring Minsk agreement and being a bitch about weapons deliveries on top of that, the US incentivized every single country to pursue access to nuclear capabilities.
Heh ok. I guess so. The US was a "bitch" about weapons deliveries (quick hide the numbers) therefore every single country is incentivized to pursue nuclear capabilities. Great argument you have there.
> They started with the public humiliation after they felt empowered because there was no credible US response to all the previous hacks that you glossed over in your response.
Name the hacks that were glossed over and what you feel is the appropriate response.
> Yes, the US stopped credit card payments and destroyed some payment terminals. I imagine they weaponized the apple and android devices, maybe this still continues. For a couple of days, we had those impressive russian rockets which turned around and destroyed their launcher. And of course the geofenced US weapon systems. But was US able to shut down any vital russian systems except starlink and McDonald's?
Sanctions seem to do the trick. But you probably aren't reading about and paying attention to the state of the Russian economy, or what equipment they're sending their soldiers to war in Ukraine with. Well, when they're not supplied by China that is.
How many Russian energy and oil facilities have been targeted by Ukrainian drone and missile strikes, and who do you think helped with the targeting?
> Old lavrov still walks around openly with his apple watch just to farm payloads.
Sure, why isn't the EU arresting him then? Why don't they launch operation Lavrov and go capture him? There's got to be a reason right? What reason do you think that is? It can't have anything to do with the US though, you can only explain why the EU isn't doing it.
> There are observers from many countries on the ground in Ukraine, and US might even be testing some weapons.
Yes, there are, but the relevant ones are from the United States and the United Kingdom. There's no "might" about the US testing new weapons, it's just a simple fact. And they're testing those weapons, both offensive and defensive, against drone warfare. Ukraine shares intelligence with the US.
> However US efforts are overshadowed by better performance of European weapons systems, both old and new.
What specific US efforts are overshadowed by better performance of European weapon systems?
> Meanwhile the US artificially limits supply for US systems, so they get destroyed because they need to preserve ammo.
Which ones?
> There is a lot of empty posturing and the results are really not speaking for the US.
Well we took down Iran and Venezuela, both Russian allies. Cuba is not looking good either. We're seizing Russian shadow fleet tankers (we've seized more in a month than the EU has since the start of the war), we've upheld sanctions and increased sanctions while Putin and his henchmen's kids galavant around Europe and the US continues to provide intelligence sharing to help Ukraine with targeting, advice, materials and equipment, and more.
The EU of course has helped too, but unlike you I'm not downplaying one party's involvement and participation and instead defending one party, as I would defend the EU if someone claimed they weren't doing anything either.
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Europe had Ukraine sabotage (according to European reports) its gas lines and gave it more weapons as a reward… so I guess the answer is that it’s complicated.
German intelligence thinks so… maybe they’re garbage. Also “the island” and “the guardian” maybe they’re garbage when they report on this but not on other things.
The former German president has/had a consulting contract with Gazprom, and refused to stop it after the invasion. There are large groups in government who received payments from russian sources. A state minister actively worked to circumvent US sanctions.
So unless someone from German intelligence goes on the record I'd be very reluctant to believe any of these anti-Ukraine claims leaked to the press.
There's an interesting book called "BND: Bedingt Dienstbereit" which talks about German intelligence headquarters in Munich. The eastern German spies from the Stasi had their offices right across the street and they used that location to train new spies.
At some point BND learned that the Stasi was actively monitoring their offices, but they could never figure out where the Stasi was located in Munich. The BND always suspected a Turkish national who rant he vegetable shop at the ground floor of their building to be a foreign spy, but never noticed the Stasi offices used for training purposes right across the street.
So while I'm confident German intelligence has improved from those days it shows that the variance in skill level is quite high.
> I also personally witnessed multiple friends who dropped out of college due to IRC addiction in the early 1990s.
I think there's always a segment of any population that will get addicted to anything, to the point of dropping family, friends, school, or work. Blame it on culture, nurture, genetics, unfulfillment, or simply lack of self control, but it always happens.
Blaming IRC, which is a pretty neutral outlet, is unfair. This is specially true today, as we have things designed and constantly honed to be as addictive as possible.
Precisely this. We love to put our colleagues as competent victims of the system, but a competent engineer is unlikely to build an embeeded UI with high latency at their first try. It's a combination of cheap, underqualified labour and careless management.
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